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Re: Fishy Website! (Or is it just me??)

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  1. "pearl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:...

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    "MattLB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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    st7 said:

    Rob wrote:
    > I'm sure you already know that certain natural toxins are destroyed by
    > the cooking.

    So you avoid those foods that are toxic in the raw state.

    Interestingly in the context of human diet history many of what are
    today edible vegetables weren't before the dawn of agriculture and the
    selective breeding of certain crops to make them more palatable or less
    toxic. Most vegetables, unlike fruit, come from parts of the plant that
    the plant doesn't want you to eat and in the original varieties would
    have been toxic, bitter-tasting or both - so probably weren't part of
    the ancient hominid diet.

    But most 'vegetables' are actually the plants' fruit. And...

    'Throughout the earth's geological history (4.5 billion years),
    large scale forces of nature such as global climate change,
    movements of continents, and geological variations induced
    by sun, rains and the winds, gave rise to a variety of life forms
    including a diversity of plain communities. An even more
    diverse array of herbivorous animals, ranging from tiny
    grasshoppers to giant elephants evolved to crop this vegetation.
    This complement of herbivores included several large mammals
    ancestral to the present day deer, pigs, wild cattle, tapirs, rhinos
    and elephants. Such a community of ungulates is not a mere
    collection of individual species, but an intricate, ecological web
    in which large species feed on coarser plants, providing paths
    and access for smaller ones, and each ungulate specialises to
    feed on different plant species, plant parts or different stages
    of plant growth. ..
    ..'
    http://www.rareearthexplorations.com/wildindia/tiger/tiger.htm

    Of course that also applies to primates and plant foods.

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    Any attempt, therefore, to claim that eating
    modern cultivated vegetables and fruit is somehow closer to our ancient
    ancestors' natural diet is misguided

    The plant foods we eat may be selected for desirable qualities,
    but they are still the genetic descendants of edible plant foods.

    .....

    'There are hundreds of fascinating, delicious wild vegetables,
    fruits, nuts, and seeds, and herbs growing in our neighborhoods,
    backyards, parks and forests that we overlook and disregard.
    Many are easy-to-recognize renewable resources you can easily
    collect and enjoy, with no harm to the environment. Many are
    the same prolific "weeds" we unsuccessfully try to destroy.
    When you know what they are and begin to use them, you’ll
    discover that they are tastier, as well as more nutritious, than
    anything you can buy, and they’re completely free.

    This book is will introduce you to the world of foraging and
    nature. We cover the most common, useful wild plants of the
    continental United States (with the exception of subtropical
    Florida, which has a different, specialized flora) and Southern
    Canada, with the basics of what you need to know to identify,
    collect, use, and appreciate them. My years as a naturalist
    draw on pertinent science, nutrition, folklore, and personal
    experiences to put the plants in context.
    ....'
    http://www.wildmanstevebrill.com/Books.Folder/I%20&%20H%20Folder/Intro%20to%20Foraging.html

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