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Re: Floyd (Tonight Show spoilers)

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  1. On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:56 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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    Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
    testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed up
    positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
    leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

    Greg

    I read somewhere that he has proof that the testers knew who the
    samples were from. If this is indeed the case (the testers knew),
    then the tests are bogus, if for no other reason than the lab violated
    their own protocol. What possible reason would the people doing the
    actual tests have to know who the urine is from if there wasn't
    something funny going on.

    He should take that lie detector test that he was offered. If he
    passed that it would be a big plus on his side.

  2. Jack Hollis said:

    On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:56 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
    testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed up
    positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
    leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

    Greg

    I read somewhere that he has proof that the testers knew who the
    samples were from. If this is indeed the case (the testers knew),
    then the tests are bogus, if for no other reason than the lab violated
    their own protocol. What possible reason would the people doing the
    actual tests have to know who the urine is from if there wasn't
    something funny going on.

    He should take that lie detector test that he was offered. If he
    passed that it would be a big plus on his side.

    If he doped, then lying is the best policy. If he fessed up then the
    next question would be "Who gave you the stuff?". Landis would then
    have 2 choices: 1. Answer that question and all that follow becoming a
    major snitch like [censored] Voet or 2. refuse to answer thereby becoming a
    publicly known as someone covering up for doping in cycling.

    If he doped then lying is the best policy as long as he does not find
    himself under oath, subject to perjury.

  3. Jack Hollis said:

    On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:56 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
    testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed up
    positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
    leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

    Greg

    I read somewhere that he has proof that the testers knew who the
    samples were from. If this is indeed the case (the testers knew),
    then the tests are bogus, if for no other reason than the lab violated
    their own protocol. What possible reason would the people doing the
    actual tests have to know who the urine is from if there wasn't
    something funny going on.

    He should take that lie detector test that he was offered. If he
    passed that it would be a big plus on his side.

    The lab definitely knows. The actual personnel doing the testing
    should not know. And I agree that the lab itself should not know.

    Anyone here receive a fax results from a WADA accredited lab? If
    you're so anonymous...then how do they get your name on the cover
    sheet? It's conceivable that the sport orgs convey identity
    information after testing, but there's still a time span where the
    results and the names are in the same lab facility. Also, my testing
    wasn't for cycling so maybe there are different protocols for
    transmitting info between UCI and WADA (I'm not going to spend the time
    to look it up due to a BM).

    -TP

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