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In rec.bicycles.tech Chris Neary <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> The only personal experience I can offer is comparing a Santana Sovereign
> >> (4.5cm trail) to a Co-Motion Speedster (5.7cm) (both tandems). The bikes
> >> handled very differently, with the Santana requiring large inputs to steer
> >> while the Co-Mo required much smaller inputs, yet remained stable. I felt
> >> like I was driving an oil tanker on the Santana, while the Co-Mo behaved
> >> like a (long) single.
> >
> >Are you confusing "rake" (offset) with trail? Trail is normally 5 cm
> >(2") or greater. If a bike had only 4.5 cm of trail it would be
> >anything but sluggish in the steering department.
> Remember, these are tandems, so the envelope of trail which is desired is
> different than singles.
Why do you say that?
And I still can't believe that a tandem with LESS trail handles more
sluggishly than a tandem with more trail as you claim.
If you're talking about less fork offset, that's another matter.
Art Harris
> >> The only personal experience I can offer is comparing a Santana Sovereign
> >> (4.5cm trail) to a Co-Motion Speedster (5.7cm) (both tandems). The bikes
> >> handled very differently, with the Santana requiring large inputs to steer
> >> while the Co-Mo required much smaller inputs, yet remained stable. I felt
> >> like I was driving an oil tanker on the Santana, while the Co-Mo behaved
> >> like a (long) single.
> >
> >Are you confusing "rake" (offset) with trail? Trail is normally 5 cm
> >(2") or greater. If a bike had only 4.5 cm of trail it would be
> >anything but sluggish in the steering department.
> Remember, these are tandems, so the envelope of trail which is desired is
> different than singles.
Why do you say that?
And I still can't believe that a tandem with LESS trail handles more
sluggishly than a tandem with more trail as you claim.
If you're talking about less fork offset, that's another matter.
Art Harris