Re: Help with raising vegan children

Discussion in 'Health and medical' started by Peter Bowditch, Jul 1, 2003.

  1. [email protected] (Jan) wrote:

    >>Subject: Re: Help with raising vegan children
    >>From: Cynewulf [email protected]
    >>Date: 7/1/2003 1:03 AM Central Standard Time
    >>Message-id: <[email protected]>
    >>
    >>Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:13:10 +0200 (CEST)
    >>Author: "Robin Atkinson" <[email protected]>
    >>
    >>
    >>>I became a vegan in '92 in my late 20's. Now I have a 6 year old son
    >>>who was raised as a vegan and has never had any meat or animal milk
    >>>(besides human) to speak of. He has been sickly on and off for a few
    >>>years, also he is very small for his age and hazardously underweight.
    >>>
    >>>The doc said the vegan diet was unhealthy and I need to give him some
    >>>real meat/fish/milk/eggs or he will never develop properly. I
    >>>obviously will not go back to that lunatic so I got a second opinion.

    >><snip>
    >>
    >>You need to be reported to Social Services, and tried for attempted
    >>murder of your child.

    >
    >Wait one minute here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    >
    >>It's unfortunate we live in such a Care Bear society today; people
    >>like you would have died off from malnutrition long ago without our
    >>modern grocery stores, while the rest of us would move on.

    >
    >>Survival of the fittest.
    >>
    >>You're a monster, and I hope your child escapes you before you kill
    >>him.

    >
    >WOW!!!!!
    >
    >I looked up your posting history, it appears you profess to be a Christian.
    >
    >I object very strongly to this kind of post.
    >
    >Jan


    Yes. it's terrible that a Christian should express outrage at someone
    who admits to abusing their child and endangering its life.

    A few years ago he leading children's hospital near my place reported
    that the second largest group of children brought to emergency (after
    accident victims) were the children of vegans and other food nuts who
    were starving their kids and denying them proper nutrition.

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  2. Jan

    Jan Guest

    >Subject: Re: Help with raising vegan children
    >From: Peter Bowditch [email protected]
    >Date: 7/1/2003 6:02 AM Central Standard Time
    >Message-id: <[email protected]>
    >
    >[email protected] (Jan) wrote:
    >
    >>>Subject: Re: Help with raising vegan children
    >>>From: Cynewulf [email protected]
    >>>Date: 7/1/2003 1:03 AM Central Standard Time
    >>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
    >>>
    >>>Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:13:10 +0200 (CEST)
    >>>Author: "Robin Atkinson" <[email protected]>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>I became a vegan in '92 in my late 20's. Now I have a 6 year old son
    >>>>who was raised as a vegan and has never had any meat or animal milk
    >>>>(besides human) to speak of. He has been sickly on and off for a few
    >>>>years, also he is very small for his age and hazardously underweight.
    >>>>
    >>>>The doc said the vegan diet was unhealthy and I need to give him some
    >>>>real meat/fish/milk/eggs or he will never develop properly. I
    >>>>obviously will not go back to that lunatic so I got a second opinion.
    >>><snip>
    >>>
    >>>You need to be reported to Social Services, and tried for attempted
    >>>murder of your child.

    >>
    >>Wait one minute here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    >>
    >>>It's unfortunate we live in such a Care Bear society today; people
    >>>like you would have died off from malnutrition long ago without our
    >>>modern grocery stores, while the rest of us would move on.

    >>
    >>>Survival of the fittest.
    >>>
    >>>You're a monster, and I hope your child escapes you before you kill
    >>>him.

    >>
    >>WOW!!!!!
    >>
    >>I looked up your posting history, it appears you profess to be a Christian.
    >>
    >>I object very strongly to this kind of post.
    >>
    >>Jan

    >
    >Yes. it's terrible that a Christian should express outrage at someone
    >who admits to abusing their child and endangering its life.


    I'm sorry but being a vegetarian is neither abuse nor endangering one's life.

    This poster's reaction was way over the line.

    >A few years ago he leading children's hospital near my place reported
    >that the second largest group of children brought to emergency (after
    >accident victims) were the children of vegans and other food nuts who
    >were starving their kids and denying them proper nutrition.


    So anecdotes count as long as they are yours.

    Still waiting for confirmation of WHY Baratz is going to court.

    Jan
     
  3. Mark Probert

    Mark Probert Guest

    Jan wrote:
    >>Subject: Re: Help with raising vegan children
    >>From: Peter Bowditch [email protected]
    >>Date: 7/1/2003 6:02 AM Central Standard Time
    >>Message-id: <[email protected]>
    >>
    >>[email protected] (Jan) wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>>Subject: Re: Help with raising vegan children
    >>>>From: Cynewulf [email protected]
    >>>>Date: 7/1/2003 1:03 AM Central Standard Time
    >>>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
    >>>>
    >>>>Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:13:10 +0200 (CEST)
    >>>>Author: "Robin Atkinson" <[email protected]>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>I became a vegan in '92 in my late 20's. Now I have a 6 year old son
    >>>>>who was raised as a vegan and has never had any meat or animal milk
    >>>>>(besides human) to speak of. He has been sickly on and off for a few
    >>>>>years, also he is very small for his age and hazardously underweight.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>The doc said the vegan diet was unhealthy and I need to give him some
    >>>>>real meat/fish/milk/eggs or he will never develop properly. I
    >>>>>obviously will not go back to that lunatic so I got a second opinion.
    >>>>
    >>>><snip>
    >>>>
    >>>>You need to be reported to Social Services, and tried for attempted
    >>>>murder of your child.
    >>>
    >>>Wait one minute here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>It's unfortunate we live in such a Care Bear society today; people
    >>>>like you would have died off from malnutrition long ago without our
    >>>>modern grocery stores, while the rest of us would move on.
    >>>
    >>>>Survival of the fittest.
    >>>>
    >>>>You're a monster, and I hope your child escapes you before you kill
    >>>>him.
    >>>
    >>>WOW!!!!!
    >>>
    >>>I looked up your posting history, it appears you profess to be a Christian.
    >>>
    >>>I object very strongly to this kind of post.
    >>>
    >>>Jan

    >>
    >>Yes. it's terrible that a Christian should express outrage at someone
    >>who admits to abusing their child and endangering its life.

    >
    >
    > I'm sorry but being a vegetarian is neither abuse nor endangering one's life.


    It i snot being a vegetarian that evoked the response, but the damage
    done to the child as a result. Sickly, undersized, underweight. Child
    neglect or abuse.

    > This poster's reaction was way over the line.


    It did not go far enough.

    >>A few years ago he leading children's hospital near my place reported
    >>that the second largest group of children brought to emergency (after
    >>accident victims) were the children of vegans and other food nuts who
    >>were starving their kids and denying them proper nutrition.

    >
    > So anecdotes count as long as they are yours.


    That is not an anecdote.

    > Still waiting for confirmation of WHY Baratz is going to court.


    Read Bolen's post for the information.
     
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