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Re: Iron and teeth and pop

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  1. ironjustice said:

    Coca-Cola Japan has widened the recall of a swathe of products found
    to
    contain iron powder.

    Based on that paper shouldn't they have recalled Sprite and added more
    iron to Coke ?

    - Marco

  2. email hidden said:
    ironjustice said:

    Coca-Cola Japan has widened the recall of a swathe of products found
    to
    contain iron powder.

    Based on that paper shouldn't they have recalled Sprite and added more
    iron to Coke ?

    No. They should encourage people to avoid soft drinks as being
    horribly fattening [censored] that's bad for kids and adults alike.

    Or the diet stuff which is full of [censored] artificial sweeteners.

    People are free to make choices though.

    George M. Carter

  3. GMCarter said:

    No. They should encourage people to avoid soft drinks as being
    horribly fattening [censored] that's bad for kids and adults alike.

    Or the diet stuff which is full of [censored] artificial sweeteners.

    People are free to make choices though.

    George M. Carter

    Very scientific indeed..

  4. email hidden said:
    GMCarter said:

    No. They should encourage people to avoid soft drinks as being
    horribly fattening [censored] that's bad for kids and adults alike.

    Or the diet stuff which is full of [censored] artificial sweeteners.

    People are free to make choices though.

    George M. Carter

    Very scientific indeed..

    Ah--based on some epi data that has linked soft drink use with the
    epidemic of obesity, though you're right, as framed above, it is my
    opinion.

    So you can review some data below. Of course, this won't sway your
    view if you're making a handsome salary selling that [censored]!

    George M. Carter

    ***
    Malik VS, Schulze MB, Hu FB. Intake of sugar-sweetened beverages and
    weight gain: a systematic review. Am J Clin Nutr. 2006
    Aug;84(2):274-88.

    Department of Nutrition, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, MA,
    USA.

    Consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs), particularly
    carbonated soft drinks, may be a key contributor to the epidemic of
    overweight and obesity, by virtue of these beverages' high added sugar
    content, low satiety, and incomplete compensation for total energy.
    Whether an association exists between SSB intake and weight gain is
    unclear. We searched English-language MEDLINE publications from 1966
    through May 2005 for cross-sectional, prospective cohort, and
    experimental studies of the relation between SSBs and the risk of
    weight gain (ie, overweight, obesity, or both). Thirty publications
    (15 cross-sectional, 10 prospective, and 5 experimental) were selected
    on the basis of relevance and quality of design and methods. Findings
    from large cross-sectional studies, in conjunction with those from
    well-powered prospective cohort studies with long periods of
    follow-up, show a positive association between greater intakes of SSBs
    and weight gain and obesity in both children and adults. Findings from
    short-term feeding trials in adults also support an induction of
    positive energy balance and weight gain by intake of sugar-sweetened
    sodas, but these trials are few. A school-based intervention found
    significantly less soft-drink consumption and prevalence of obese and
    overweight children in the intervention group than in control subjects
    after 12 mo, and a recent 25-week randomized controlled trial in
    adolescents found further evidence linking SSB intake to body weight.
    The weight of epidemiologic and experimental evidence indicates that a
    greater consumption of SSBs is associated with weight gain and
    obesity. Although more research is needed, sufficient evidence exists
    for public health strategies to discourage consumption of sugary
    drinks as part of a healthy lifestyle.

    PMID: 16895873 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    ***
    Fernald LC. Socio-economic status and body mass index in low-income
    Mexican adults. Soc Sci Med. 2007 May;64(10):2030-42. Epub 2007 Mar
    21.

    School of Public Health, University of California, 140 Warren Hall, MC
    7360, Berkeley, CA 94720-7360, USA.

    The study reported here explored the associations of body mass index
    (BMI), socio-economic status (SES), and beverage consumption in a very
    low-income population. A house-to-house survey was conducted in 2003
    of 12,873 Mexican adults. The sample was designed to be representative
    of the poorest communities in seven of Mexico's 31 states. Greater
    educational attainment was significantly associated with higher BMI
    and a greater prevalence of overweight (25BMI<30) and obesity (30BMI)
    in men and women. The combined prevalence of overweight and obesity
    was over 70% in women greater than the median age of 35.4 years with
    at least some primary education compared with a prevalence of 45% in
    women below the median age with no education. In both sexes, BMI was
    positively correlated with education, occupation, quality of housing
    conditions, household assets, and subjective social status. BMI and
    household income were significantly correlated in women but not in
    men. In the models including all SES variables, education, occupation,
    housing conditions and household assets all contributed independently
    and significantly to BMI, and household income and subjective social
    status did not. Increased consumption of alcoholic and carbonated
    sugar beverages was associated with higher SES and higher BMI. Thus,
    in spite of the narrow range of socio-economic variability in this
    population, the increased consumption of high calorie beverages may
    explain the positive relationship between SES and BMI. The positive
    associations between SES and BMI in this low-income, rural population
    are likely to be related to the changing patterns of food
    availability, food composition, consumption patterns and cultural
    factors. Contextually sensitive population-level interventions are
    critically needed to address obesity and overweight in poor
    populations, particularly in older women.

    ***

  5. GMCarter said:

    Ah--based on some epi data that has linked soft drink use with the
    epidemic of obesity, though you're right, as framed above, it is my
    opinion.

    I don't necessarily disagree- it's just that Coke seems to be a
    convenient target/scapegoat for obesity that's caused by a poor diet
    in general. However, I disagree with the "diet stuff which is full of
    [censored] artificial sweeteners" it seems the research on health risks due
    to artificial sweeteners is as reliable as that on risks of amalgam.

    Thank you for the citations !

    - Marco

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