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Re: Low blood pressure advice please

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  1. [email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Derek F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Two questions, do you think that zero drinking had an efeect on his BP?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    and
    do you really think that 120/65 is too low while still on medication?

    If there are associated symptoms, perhaps.

    Quoted message said:

    I
    normally start the day around 170/86 and come down to 120/60 by night time.
    Yesterday morning my BP was only 120/64 before taking my 240mg Securon and
    25mg Losartan by bedtime it was 113/57.

    Without symptoms, that should be fine.

    I also have white coat syndrome, although it isn't as bad as it once
    was.

    Three years ago, after a few systolic BP readings over 160, I agreed
    with doc that medication was a wise choice. Home monitor readings
    (machine was checked against one in docs office) were around
    140-145/70 pre-treatment, then dropped to upper 120s/70s after
    starting 20mgs/day of lisinopril.

    Fast foreward to present. After increasing aerobic exercise regimine
    (lots of running and volleyball), dropping about 15 lbs (went from a
    bodyfat of 18% to a lean 14% at 175lbs), and a more relaxed attitude
    toward BP readings (my white coat syndrome is actually BP monitor
    anxiety), my home readings are now generally below 110/70. Last night
    I had 3 readings below 99/60!
    I've also had two readings of 122/60 in medical settings in last few
    weeks. Of some concern is the fact that I get a bit hypotensive/dizzy
    when standing quickly, particularly on this low-carb diet I'm on.

    I'm wondering if any risks of remaining on medication outweigh the
    benefits. If my BP w/o the ACE inhibitor is, say, around 130/70, would
    I be better off staying on the med, thus keeping my systolic BP below
    120? Is 20mg/day of lisinopril good for about 10mm Hg? I'm assuming
    that the dizziness I sometime get will subside once I resume eating
    carbs, reasoning that the low carb diet lowers my overall blood volume
    and electrolyte level. The dizziness is not a great concern at this
    time (relatively modest), although I did hit the floor once last year.
    I actually like the feeling, since it is a stong indicator that my BP
    is not high!

    Thanks for any input.
    Mike

    ps - I am not an avid endorser of low-carb diets. They just work well
    for me.

  2. [email hidden] (Michael Rawlins) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I also have white coat syndrome, although it isn't as bad as it once
    was.

    Three years ago, after a few systolic BP readings over 160, I agreed
    with doc that medication was a wise choice. Home monitor readings
    (machine was checked against one in docs office) were around
    140-145/70 pre-treatment, then dropped to upper 120s/70s after
    starting 20mgs/day of lisinopril.

    Fast foreward to present. After increasing aerobic exercise regimine
    (lots of running and volleyball), dropping about 15 lbs (went from a
    bodyfat of 18% to a lean 14% at 175lbs), and a more relaxed attitude
    toward BP readings (my white coat syndrome is actually BP monitor
    anxiety), my home readings are now generally below 110/70. Last night
    I had 3 readings below 99/60!
    I've also had two readings of 122/60 in medical settings in last few
    weeks. Of some concern is the fact that I get a bit hypotensive/dizzy
    when standing quickly, particularly on this low-carb diet I'm on.

    I'm wondering if any risks of remaining on medication outweigh the
    benefits. If my BP w/o the ACE inhibitor is, say, around 130/70, would
    I be better off staying on the med, thus keeping my systolic BP below
    120?

    It sounds like the answer is less lisinopril rather than no
    lisinopril.

    Quoted message said:

    Is 20mg/day of lisinopril good for about 10mm Hg?

    It varies.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm assuming
    that the dizziness I sometime get will subside once I resume eating
    carbs, reasoning that the low carb diet lowers my overall blood volume
    and electrolyte level.

    Along with lowering blood pH. The dizziness is unlikely to subside
    until you regain the weight.

    Quoted message said:

    The dizziness is not a great concern at this
    time (relatively modest), although I did hit the floor once last year.

    Sounds like a concern to me. It would likely be a concern to your
    doctor too if s/he were involved in your low carb dieting.

    Quoted message said:

    I actually like the feeling, since it is a stong indicator that my BP
    is not high!

    Could be an indicator of a host of other things.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for any input.
    Mike

    ps - I am not an avid endorser of low-carb diets. They just work well
    for me.

    15 lbs in 3 years doesn't sound that well. Add back the carbs and you
    will likely soon be back at square one.

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com

  3. [email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Michael Rawlins) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure you'd agree there'd be much less heart
    disease if people would just give up the donuts and ice cream.

    No, I would not agree.

    http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Living/ap20030724_334.html

  4. [email hidden] (Michael Rawlins) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Michael Rawlins) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure you'd agree there'd be much less heart
    disease if people would just give up the donuts and ice cream.

    No, I would not agree.

    http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Living/ap20030724_334.html

    To convince folks otherwise, you will need a story that demonstrates
    that the incidence of heart disease rose dramatically when donuts and
    ice cream were invented.

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com

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