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Re: Milk - Parkinson's link?

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  1. Bob in CT said:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18203093/

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    Bob in CT

    The next question is whether it is real fresh whole unadulterated
    natural milk OR the white homogenized ultra-high-temperature-
    pasteurized fat-separated and fat-reconstituted month-long-shelf-life
    manufactured dead [censored] that sits on store shelves forever that they
    call milk that is the problem.

    Quality is *the* issue. Milk by any other name may not be milk
    anymore. To lump all marketted milk products together is patently
    absurd.

    When they reported that people in some far away land lived until a
    hundred by eating lots of yogurt, they did not mean the yogurt that
    you find in little plastic cups with cute graphics in the supermarket
    with added sugar and fruit flavours, they were talking about real
    yogurt from real milk made the old fashioned way.

  2. Tunderbar said:
    Bob in CT said:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18203093/

    --
    Bob in CT

    The next question is whether it is real fresh whole unadulterated
    natural milk OR the white homogenized ultra-high-temperature-
    pasteurized fat-separated and fat-reconstituted month-long-shelf-life
    manufactured dead [censored] that sits on store shelves forever that they
    call milk that is the problem.

    Quality is *the* issue. Milk by any other name may not be milk
    anymore. To lump all marketted milk products together is patently
    absurd.

    When they reported that people in some far away land lived until a
    hundred by eating lots of yogurt, they did not mean the yogurt that
    you find in little plastic cups with cute graphics in the supermarket
    with added sugar and fruit flavours, they were talking about real
    yogurt from real milk made the old fashioned way.

    You know, I have had raw milk before. I was thinking of using it to make
    yoghurt, but the fact that the milk isn't pasteurized scares me.

    --
    Bob in CT

  3. :: The next question is whether it is real fresh whole unadulterated
    :: natural milk OR the white homogenized ultra-high-temperature-
    :: pasteurized fat-separated and fat-reconstituted month-long-shelf-life
    :: manufactured dead [censored] that sits on store shelves forever that they
    :: call milk that is the problem.

    You have quite a way with words, TC. 🙂

  4. Bob in CT said:

    You know, I have had raw milk before. I was thinking of using it to
    make yoghurt, but the fact that the milk isn't pasteurized scares
    me.

    My book on making yogurt recommends that you pasteurize your milk
    first, so you know that the only bacteria involved in the fermentation
    are the ones in the starter you add. Simply bringing the milk to
    boiling for a second is all it takes pasteurize it. You have to bring
    it to 115 degrees for the fermentation anyway, so that's not a big
    deal.

    Not that there's anything very scary about raw milk anymore. Most of
    the diseases you used to have to worry about have been eliminated over
    the years through quarantining and culling. Every single time the
    trucker picks up a load of milk at my parents' farm (every other day),
    he takes a little sample in a vial, and the milk is tested at the
    plant when it gets there, so they can be sure it doesn't have
    antibiotics or high levels of anything bad in it before they dump it
    in with the rest.

    If there's anything unusual in it, my folks will get a call by the
    next day, because they could get charged for the whole truckload of
    milk being thrown out. They drink all their milk raw, and never have
    a problem. Really, if you keep your cows clean and healthy, getting a
    disease from their milk is about as likely as catching something from
    a strawberry you picked out of your garden.

    --
    Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

    "If you hear hoofbeats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not
    zebras."

  5. Aaron Baugher said:
    Bob in CT said:

    You know, I have had raw milk before. I was thinking of using it to
    make yoghurt, but the fact that the milk isn't pasteurized scares
    me.

    My book on making yogurt recommends that you pasteurize your milk
    first, so you know that the only bacteria involved in the fermentation
    are the ones in the starter you add. Simply bringing the milk to
    boiling for a second is all it takes pasteurize it. You have to bring
    it to 115 degrees for the fermentation anyway, so that's not a big
    deal.

    Not that there's anything very scary about raw milk anymore. Most of
    the diseases you used to have to worry about have been eliminated over
    the years through quarantining and culling. Every single time the
    trucker picks up a load of milk at my parents' farm (every other day),
    he takes a little sample in a vial, and the milk is tested at the
    plant when it gets there, so they can be sure it doesn't have
    antibiotics or high levels of anything bad in it before they dump it
    in with the rest.

    If there's anything unusual in it, my folks will get a call by the
    next day, because they could get charged for the whole truckload of
    milk being thrown out. They drink all their milk raw, and never have
    a problem. Really, if you keep your cows clean and healthy, getting a
    disease from their milk is about as likely as catching something from
    a strawberry you picked out of your garden.

    Cool. I'll buy the raw milk at the local farm, then.

    --
    Bob in CT

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