I won't contest montygram's point about lipid types and their relationships to obesity, but I must note that, when I checked with the "Chinese" takeout today, I found two things: 1: the cook is Thai, a Canadian citizen for 5 years; one of the assistants a 3rd generation Canadian Muslim north-Chinese; the other assistant a 2nd generation Canadian from Hong Kong! How much more Canadian can you get! Including their BMI - at a guess a maximum of 20 for the assistants, less than 25 for the cook. (Mine's 22.) 2. They use solely peanut oil - corn oil "tastes awful". They are certain that all other Ottawa-area "Chinese" sources also use solely peanut oil. I assume that montygram can come up with quotes about peanut oil equally negative to those we got about corn oil. My point in the original post was that all of those fatsos using their cars to drive a block were eating something on the order of eight times what I, and the take-out staff, normally eat for a main meal.