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Tom Sherman
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Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Tom Sherman <[email protected]> writes:
>> Tom Keats wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Arif Khokar <[email protected]> writes:
>>>> Second, it's the
>>>> responsibility for those who don't have the right of way to wait for a
>>>> suitable gap in traffic before proceeding. That means that cyclists and
>>>> drivers waiting to turn or cross an intersection must wait for traffic
>>>> to clear before proceeding.
>>> That's what non-suicidal, rational people do.
>>> Despite popular opinion, people who aren't operating
>>> motor vehicles aren't /that/ idiotic.
>>>
>> Ever ride your bicycle on a college campus?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Yes, people are that
>> idiotic, and rush into the street in the middle of the block without
>> looking. That is why I preferred to ride a 'bent, so I would not fly
>> over the bars and land on my head if one of the idiots took me out (been
>> there, done that, earlier in life).
>
> I've /never/ run into anyone with my uprights.
>
I refuse to slow down for idiots.
>> Many of the cyclists are not any better. I have been hit a couple of
>> times while walking by sidewalk riders - one overtaking from behind
>> (clipped by the end of the handlebars) and one who was coming around a
>> blind corner hugging the building wall
>
> I don't particularly like habitual
> sidewalk cycling. That said, I've
> never been hit by a sidewalk rider.
>
Maybe you have been in a less crowded area.
>> I was recently almost hit by a
>> fixie poseur who was making a right turn on red without stopping or
>> yielding.
>
> Car drivers do that a lot. I guess he was
> a car driver on a bike. There are all too
> many of those.
>
The guy is lucky he avoided me, since he would likely have landed on his
face. Hitting a pedestrian while riding an upright usually is much worse
for the rider.
>> Notice that none of these incidents involve the dreaded steel and glass
>> cage.
>
> I notice that you lived to tell the tale.
>
The one incident with an upright involved several children running out
in front of me while being screened from view by a parked vehicle. I was
able to slow to less than 15 mph before the collision with an estimated
70 pound child (I probably weighed about 105 pounds at the time). The
result was a nasty scalp wound for me, a bent fork on my Peugeot, and a
minor scratch on the idiotic child's knee.
Had I been riding a proper recumbent, the outcome would have been much
more in my favor.
> I guess you're sharp enough to survive all
> these dreaded onslaughts.
>
Hey, if a moron on a bike wants to run into me when I am a pedestrian
and have the right-of-way, I will lead with my shoulder.
> Heck, I survive & thrive well enough with
> my ~normal~ bikes.
>
> I don't need to look to other configs
> to make-up for my judgmental mistakes.
>
How is having others violate one's right-of-way a judgmental mistake?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Tom Sherman <[email protected]> writes:
>> Tom Keats wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Arif Khokar <[email protected]> writes:
>>>> Second, it's the
>>>> responsibility for those who don't have the right of way to wait for a
>>>> suitable gap in traffic before proceeding. That means that cyclists and
>>>> drivers waiting to turn or cross an intersection must wait for traffic
>>>> to clear before proceeding.
>>> That's what non-suicidal, rational people do.
>>> Despite popular opinion, people who aren't operating
>>> motor vehicles aren't /that/ idiotic.
>>>
>> Ever ride your bicycle on a college campus?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Yes, people are that
>> idiotic, and rush into the street in the middle of the block without
>> looking. That is why I preferred to ride a 'bent, so I would not fly
>> over the bars and land on my head if one of the idiots took me out (been
>> there, done that, earlier in life).
>
> I've /never/ run into anyone with my uprights.
>
I refuse to slow down for idiots.
>> Many of the cyclists are not any better. I have been hit a couple of
>> times while walking by sidewalk riders - one overtaking from behind
>> (clipped by the end of the handlebars) and one who was coming around a
>> blind corner hugging the building wall
>
> I don't particularly like habitual
> sidewalk cycling. That said, I've
> never been hit by a sidewalk rider.
>
Maybe you have been in a less crowded area.
>> I was recently almost hit by a
>> fixie poseur who was making a right turn on red without stopping or
>> yielding.
>
> Car drivers do that a lot. I guess he was
> a car driver on a bike. There are all too
> many of those.
>
The guy is lucky he avoided me, since he would likely have landed on his
face. Hitting a pedestrian while riding an upright usually is much worse
for the rider.
>> Notice that none of these incidents involve the dreaded steel and glass
>> cage.
>
> I notice that you lived to tell the tale.
>
The one incident with an upright involved several children running out
in front of me while being screened from view by a parked vehicle. I was
able to slow to less than 15 mph before the collision with an estimated
70 pound child (I probably weighed about 105 pounds at the time). The
result was a nasty scalp wound for me, a bent fork on my Peugeot, and a
minor scratch on the idiotic child's knee.
Had I been riding a proper recumbent, the outcome would have been much
more in my favor.
> I guess you're sharp enough to survive all
> these dreaded onslaughts.
>
Hey, if a moron on a bike wants to run into me when I am a pedestrian
and have the right-of-way, I will lead with my shoulder.
> Heck, I survive & thrive well enough with
> my ~normal~ bikes.
>
> I don't need to look to other configs
> to make-up for my judgmental mistakes.
>
How is having others violate one's right-of-way a judgmental mistake?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful