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Re: Paris Roubaix bikes

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    On 19 Apr 2007 10:33:02 -0700, "[email hidden]"

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    Lot of odd things used on the special, custom, one-off bikes for this
    ride.

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    2003 or 2004 Chorus cranks with non hidden fifth spider arm, ala
    Record and 2005 onwards Chorus. Metal shim under the front derailleur
    clamp. Tektro or Shimano or something long reach brake calipers on a
    team sponsored by Campagnolo to provide space around the 27mm
    tubulars. Set screw through the seattube to hold the seatpost in
    place.http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/apr07/roubaix07/tech/?id=/tech/2...

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    Record skeleton brake on back. Older normal looking Record brake on
    the front instead of the skeleton style. Chain watcher of course.http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/apr07/roubaix07/tech/?id=/tech/2...

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    I wonder if the regular gear is really too lousy to deal with a mere
    50km of pave, or if this is the mechanics' one chance per year to
    really let their hair out.

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    Like what does using an old Chorus crank accomplish? And the
    derailleur shim? I've fit 27mm tires into Campy calipers, why can't
    they?

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    Joseph

    Dear Joseph,

    The racers look for stronger-than-regular gear because they bounce
    over the cobblestones faster and harder than regular riders.

    The impact energy rises with the square of the velocity, so if I hit
    the cobblestone at 20 mph with an impact of 400x, a racer who weighs
    as much as I do and hits it at 25 mph will suffer an impact of 625x.
    about 56% harder.

    (Okay, more believable cobblestone figures might be 15 mph for me and
    27 mph for the racer, so the impacts would be 225x versus 729x, with
    the racer hitting the rock three times as hard, but surely you don't
    begrudge my innocent Walter-Mitty moment where I'm imagining that I
    could stay within 5 mph of the real Paris-Roubaix racers.)

    Ok, but we are not talking about orders of magnitude here. Does bike
    equipment really have such a low threshold of failure? Admittedly 50km
    + of constant bashing is quite a bit more punishing that hitting a big
    pot-hole once in a while, but I think all this comes in the better
    safe than sorry category and isn't strictly necessary.

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    The shims appear to be intended to stop things from moving during the
    race. Apparently unshimmed regular equipment moved in training rides,
    so the mechanics had to try something.

    Wider brakes appear to be intended for mud clearance (too bad it
    didn't rain) and to make wheel changes with wide tires a little easier
    and faster (even the winner flatted).

    Fast tire changes are important, indeed.

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    Chain watchers help over the cobblestones (the regular equipment
    happily bounces off) and also make a difference when getting up after
    a crash (putting the chain back on takes time).

    Chain watchers I consider part of a normal setup. Too bad lots of
    modern carbon frames cannot accomodate them.

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    Some of the modifications and substitutes may be as useless as you
    suspect (or even counter-productive), but they're a typical response
    to a bad situation. When experience proves that regular gear isn't up
    to the job, you try to cobble (sorry, couldn't resist it) something
    together that works.

    Or mechanics afraid to see their job prospects hobbled by their lack
    (or the riders'!) of cobbling skills.

    Joseph

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