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Re: Plant-based Digestive Enzyme Suggestion?

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  1. Each of the items mentioned can have their own specific reason for causing
    reactions, one frequent one is alergies to them which one can develope
    later in life. The theory you propose has no basis in science, if you are
    referring to the so called "leaky gut syndrome" which is an invention of
    those who are happy to charge to "cure" it. If it were true, the very
    enzymes you mention would get in the blood as well and be a cause for
    problems. I would suggest first confirming food as the source of your skin
    reactions. Stop eating all of them for a period and then eat each food in
    isolation to see what happens. It is just as likely the skin reaction is
    caused by any of a number of reasons not related to food. Thus, even if
    the reaction showed up with some food you would not know the cause was
    actually something else. Consulting a doctor with experience,ie
    dermatologist, would be one first step. Sadly far too many who promote
    themselves as experts in food allergies are the same promoting leaky gut
    etc. as having some reality in human biology.

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    My skin reacts to some foods such as milk, citrus, soy beans, peanuts,
    citrus, cantaloupe, etc. I didn't react to these foods when I was
    younger. I am assuming that some food components are making it past
    the digestive lining and into general blood circulation. I am hoping
    breaking down foods to their simplest components might alleviate the
    reactions. Does this sound plausible?

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    I would suggest first confirming food as the source of your skin
    reactions. Stop eating all of them for a period and then eat each food in
    isolation to see what happens. It is just as likely the skin reaction is
    caused by any of a number of reasons not related to food. Thus, even if
    the reaction showed up with some food you would not know the cause was
    actually something else.

    I have been keeping a dietary log for the last three years. It took me
    that long to discover a group of foods that don't seem to cause
    problems. Three years ago I would have never suspected the offending
    foods as they were a common part of my diet. During a diet of
    non-offending foods, if I add certain foods I repeatedly suffer the
    same effect. So I am fairly confident there is a strong correlation.
    For instance, if I eat an orange, I have learned which part of on my
    hand will get inflammed. I have retested several times (or sometimes I
    just can't resist even knowing the consequences).

    I went ahead and got the Ultra-Zyme Plus at $41.50 for 270 caps (3
    month supply). I haved started taking them with my meals. The only
    thing I can tell thus far is I haven't felt bloated. Next I will try
    them will some offending foods.

    Quoted message said:

    The theory you propose has no basis in science, if you are
    referring to the so called "leaky gut syndrome" which is an invention of
    those who are happy to charge to "cure" it.

    I only know the trigger and the end result. I do not know the exact
    mechanism in between. The digestive enzymes are a shot-in-the-dark.
    Also see below:

    In vitro allergenicity of peanut after hydrolysis in the presence of
    polysaccharides. Mouecoucou J, Fremont S, Sanchez C, Villaume C,
    Mejean L.

    BACKGROUND: Peanut is a major allergenic product. Manufacturing
    processes used in food industries to improve the physicochemical
    properties of food-based peanut (stabilization, texturization), could
    cause a modification of the digestibility of peanut proteins and,
    consequently, their allergenicity. OBJECTIVE: This study aimed at
    examining the influence of polysaccharides, i.e., gum arabic, low
    methylated pectin (LMP) and xylan, on the in vitro hydrolysis of
    peanut protein isolate (PPI) and the in vitro allergenicity of the
    digestion products. METHODS: PPI was hydrolysed during a two-step in
    vitro hydrolysis by pepsin, followed by a trypsin/chymotrypsin (T/C)
    mixture performed in dialysis bags with molecular weight cut-offs
    (MWCO) of 1000 or 8000 Da. SDS-PAGE electrophoresis and immunoblotting
    were assessed on the peptic and T/C digestion products in (retentates)
    and out of the dialysis bags (dialysates). RESULTS: Hydrolysis by all
    of the digestive enzymes showed retention of some proteins in the
    dialysis bags in the presence of gum arabic and xylan. The retentates
    were recognized by IgG and IgE, particularly peptides <20 kDa. The IgE
    binding with peptides of retentate containing xylan from the dialysis
    bag with an MWCO of 1000 Da was reduced. The immunoreactivity of
    hydrolysis products in dialysates was considerably reduced by
    polysaccharides, regardless of the dialysis bag. CONCLUSION: Reduction
    of PPI hydrolysis was probably due to non-specific interactions
    between polysaccharides and peptides. In retentates, IgE-binding
    epitopes were reduced by digestion and the presence of xylan. In
    dialysates, they were reduced by all of the polysaccharides. This work
    highlights the possibility of modulating this food allergy through
    optimized formulation.

    PMID: 15347377 [PubMed - in process]

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