geek_girl said:25 Jan 2005 said:Date: 25 Jan 2005 16:10:05 -0800
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness.weights
Subject: Re: Power Clean to Deadlift %geek_girl said:
What's your point? What do you think "significant" means?The fact is, you haven't even shown that even a small % have
significant problems.The fact is, I didn't say that they did. I said a significant
percentage have problems. It's up to them to decide how significant
the
Quoted message said:problems are, not you.
If you don't know the difference, then you're either complete moron,
or,
Quoted message said:and I hope this is the case, a troll.
It's true that maybe once or twice in here I wasn't clear and just used
the generalization that "HPV doesn't cause problems," etc. Of course,
when I say that, I naturally am speaking about the general case, but I
should be clearer, even though I have been usually, and you have
corrected me or emphasized the exception when I haven't been: HPV
doesn't cause problems in most, but it can cause problems (cosmetic
long-term or cervical cancer) in others. Then again, it's often either
very difficult or impossible for a guy to know if he has a type of HPV
that causes cancer. It's not hard to figure out if you have a higher
probability of it though, if a woman you have slept with has told you
she's had dysplasia. Also, oral herpes can also cause death or other
problems in very rare cases, or also in some people bad cosmetic
problems. My whole point I guess is that there are risks in life. If
you choose not to tell someone about oral herpes or genital wart HPV,
or, generally if you're a woman, a high-risk (for cancer) type of HPV,
then, yes, there is some small probability out there that they could be
one who suffers long-term, chronic cold sores, warts, etc, or maybe
even get cancer. Of course, they shouldn't get cancer if they get
normal pap smears. But at some point the risk is so small that I look
at others who perhaps don't tell and I don't judge them as being evil.
We do risky things everyday in our life and we incur small risks that
aren't told to us everyday in our lives. But, I guess, for some the
risk is still too high. But, I guess my whole point is that if 1 in,
say, 2 billion people were susceptible to cold sores or warts, yet we
all had the virus, we wouldn't worry about telling others. Yet, the
risk is higher than that, so it's not that clear cut I realize. Also,
I sometimes cited the CDC and talked about 80% of women over 50 having
had some form of HPV. Of course, this is an estimate. Sometimes I
acted like it was set in stone or something, but I realize that's
probably not the right way to look at it.