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Re: Re Complementary Medicine Grows By Leaps & Bounds

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    Subject: Re: Re Complementary Medicine Grows By Leaps & Bounds
    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 12/15/2003 9:33 PM Pacific Standard Time

    http://tinyurl.com/z8r9

    Complementary medicine growing by leaps and bounds : PC-SPES, other supplements
    for prostate disease show gains in popularity, credibility.
    Urology Times, August, 1999, by Norman Bauman

    Dallas-After years of rejection and skepticism, physicians are finally
    beginning to accept complementary and alternative medicine-if the evidence is
    there.

    William R. Fair, MD, who used complementary medical techniques during his own
    bout with colon cancer, addressed the subject head on during a plenary session
    at the AUA meeting here. Dr. Fair, director of the Bendheim Prostate Diagnostic
    Center, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, New York, gave examples of
    controversial therapies that are showing promise in rigorous scientific
    studies, including PC-SPES, vitamin E, selenium, and low-fat diets for prostate
    cancer, and saw palmetto for BPH.

    "My introduction to complementary and alternative medicine was by necessity,"
    said Dr. Fair, referring to his fight against cancer. "What I gleaned from
    this, with surprise, was how much science really exists in the field. While
    it's true that there are a lot of unknowns and a lot of things that need more
    exploration, that's also true of allopathic medicine. An estimated 15% of what
    we do is really evidence- based."

    Dr. Fair prefers to call it "complementary medicine" rather than "alternative
    medicine." He believes the term "alternative" implies something other than
    standard medicine, whereas "complementary" suggests using these therapies in
    addition to traditional medicine. Diet, supplementation, exercise, and stress
    reduction "really should be part of standard medicine," he said.

    Urologists must keep up

    "The growth of complementary and alternative medicine is real," said Dr. Fair.
    "It's being driven by patients, and we have to keep up with it. The demand is
    growing, and if we're not aware, the parade will pass us by. In 1997, there
    were more patient visits to providers of alternative and complementary medicine
    than there were to primary care physicians in the U.S."

    Dr. Fair was citing a recent study by David Eisenberg, MD, of Beth Israel
    Deaconess Medical Center, Boston, and colleagues (JAMA 1998; 280:1569-75).
    According to the study, 46% of the American population uses alternative
    medicine, but less than 40% of those individuals have told their physicians.

    However, one skeptic challenged those numbers. Stephen Barrett, MD, a retired
    psychiatrist who operates the Quackwatch web site (www.quackwatch.com), charged
    that Dr. Eisenberg "classified things as alternative that are part of standard
    practice so he could pump up his numbers." For example, Dr. Eisenberg's study
    included relaxation techniques-"which have been part of standard psychological
    practice for years," said Dr. Barrett-along with massage and self-help groups.

    Dr. Barrett was a reviewer for two other articles in the JAMA issue in which
    Dr. Eisenberg's study appeared. The issue was devoted mainly to discussions of
    alternative and complementary medicine.

    (Quack Barrett isn't qualified to review)

    The Wall Street Journal estimated the annual market for complementary and
    alternative medicine at $50 billion, said Dr. Fair. Dr. Eisenberg, meanwhile,
    estimated 1997 out-of-pocket expenditures for such therapies to be $27 to $34
    billion, or about equal to the $29 billion in out-of- pocket expenditures on
    physician services.

  2. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Re Complementary Medicine Grows By Leaps & Bounds
    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 12/15/2003 9:33 PM Pacific Standard Time

    http://tinyurl.com/z8r9

    Complementary medicine growing by leaps and bounds : PC-SPES, other supplements

    this now is the sixth case.

    Which proves, again, that Jan Drew is a liar. Jan Drew claimed to have
    me killfiled :

    <quote>
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    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
    Date: 21 Oct 2003 22:47:53 GMT
    References: <[email hidden]>
    Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
    Subject: Re: JianDrew is *not* a Dentist
    Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    From: [email hidden] (madiba)
    Date: 10/21/2003 1:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Happy Oyster

    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Again, no wonder, that the sound thinking MDs and dentists were

    Quoted message said:

    fed up, this the more because the naturopath mafiosi use foul
    language - as you can see with Jan Drew and the other
    advertizing agencies.

    I have him killfiled, but this is ANOTHER lie, I do not use foul
    language.

    There is no such thing as naturopath mafiosi

    I have not told parents to not vacination their children.

    Everything this man says about me is a lie.

    Jan
    </quote>

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers

    --
    World Conference
    "Health Care Systems: Public and Private Management"

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_p0.htm

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