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If there ever was an argument against freedom of speech, you might say
missionaries are the best argument against freedom of speech.
I venture that many mommedan countries would opt for freedom of speech if
missionaries close their evil empire.
"Dr. Jai Maharaj" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> These Xtian missionaries infest the Net, too -- three
> of them are Dr. Andrew Chung, Ranjit Mathews and
> Prem Thomas -- what's the latest fake name he's using
> these days, "Snoopy"?
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "harmony" <[email protected]> posted:
> >
> > There was one british woman in those days, ms. mayo, who cobbled up a
book
> > on hindu civilization which mahatma gandhi called "gutter inspector's
> > report".
> > missionaires were the 4th wing of british military as one british prime
> > minister of those days described and used them. India still has
vestiges of
> > colonialism; those missionaries still roam around like those lost
japanese
> > soldiers of WW2, not knowing it is over. all missionaries are badly
needed
> > in europe where church pews are empty, not India which gave the world
true
> > idea of freedom.
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > Forwarded message
> > >
> > > Max Müller, A paid employee, who translated the Rigveda
> > > in a demeaning style. The hidden secrets of his life.
> > >
> > > 1. Max Müller was a British agent, especially employed
> > > (in 1847) to write the translations of the Vedas in such
> > > a demeaning way so that the Hindus should lose faith in
> > > them. His personal letter to his wife dated December 9,
> > > 1867 reveals this fact.
> > >
> > > 2. He was highly paid for this job. According to the
> > > statistical information given on page 214 of the
> > > ''English Education, 1798-1902'' by John William Adamson,
> > > printed by Cambridge University Press in 1930, the
> > > revised scale of a male teacher was £90 per year and for
> > > a woman, £60 in 1853. The present salary of a teacher in
> > > London is £14,000 to £36,000 per year, which averages a
> > > minimum of at least 200 times increase in the last 146
> > > years. Max Müller was paid £4 per sheet of his writing
> > > which comes to £800 of today (1999). This is an
> > > incredibly high price for only one sheet of writing. But
> > > it's the general law of business, that the price of a
> > > commodity increases with its demand. The British were in
> > > such an imperative need to get someone to do this job and
> > > Max Müller was the right person, so they paid whatever
> > > Max Müller asked for. His enthusiastic letter to his
> > > mother dated April 15, 1847 reveals this fact.
> > >
> > > 3. Max Müller's letters dated August 25, 1856 and
> > > December 16, 1868 reveal the fact that he was desperate
> > > to bring Christianity into India so that the religion of
> > > the Hindus should be doomed.
> > >
> > > His letters also reveal that:
> > >
> > > He lived in poverty before he was employed by the
> > > British,
> > >
> > > His duplicity in translation was praised by his
> > > superiors, and
> > >
> > > In London, where he lived, there were a lot of
> > > orientalists working for the British.
> > >
> > > Letters of Max Müller.
> > >
> > > ''The Life and Letters of Friedrich Max Müller.'' First
> > > published in 1902 (London and N.Y.). Reprint in 1976
> > > (USA).
> > >
> > > 1. TO HIS WIFE, OXFORD, December 9, 1867.
> > >
> > > ''...I feel convinced, though I shall not live to see it,
> > > that this edition of mine and the translation of the Veda
> > > will hereafter tell to a great extent on the fate of
> > > India, and on the growth of millions of souls in that
> > > country. It is the root of their religion, and to show
> > > them what that root is, I feel sure, the only way of
> > > uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last
> > > 3,000 years.''
> > >
> > > 2. TO HIS MOTHER, 5 NEWMAN'S ROW, LINCOLN'S INN FIELDS,
> > > April 15, 1847.
> > >
> > > ''I can yet hardly believe that I have at last got what I
> > > have struggled for so long... I am to hand over to the
> > > Company, ready for press, fifty sheets each year; for
> > > this I have asked £200 a year, £4 a sheet. They have been
> > > considering the matter since December, and it was only
> > > yesterday that it was officially settled.''
> > >
> > > ''...In fact, I spent a delightful time, and when I
> > > reached London yesterday I found all settled, and I could
> > > say and feel, Thank God! Now I must at once send my
> > > thanks, and set to work to earn the first £100.''
> > >
> > > 3. To Chevalier Bunsen. 55 St. John Street, Oxford,
> > > August 25, 1856.
> > >
> > > ''India is much riper for Christianity than Rome or
> > > Greece were at the time of St. Paul. The rotten tree has
> > > for some time had artificial supports... For the good of
> > > this struggle I should like to lay down my life, or at
> > > least to lend my hand to bring about this struggle.
> > > Dhulip Singh is much at Court, and is evidently destined
> > > to play a political part in India.''
> > >
> > > To the duke of Argyll. Oxford, December 16, 1868.
> > >
> > > ''India has been conquered once, but India must be
> > > conquered again, and that second conquest should be a
> > > conquest by education. Much has been done for education
> > > of late, but if the funds were tripled and quadrupled,
> > > that would hardly be enough... A new national literature
> > > may spring up, impregnated with western ideas, yet
> > > retaining its native spirit and character... A new
> > > national literature will bring with it a new national
> > > life, and new moral vigour. As to religion, that will
> > > take care of itself. The missionaries have done far more
> > > than they themselves seem to be aware of.''
> > >
> > > ''The ancient religion of India is doomed, and if
> > > Christianity does not step in, whose fault will it be?''
> > >
> > > 4. (a) From the diary of Max Müller. Paris. April 10,
> > > 1845.
> > >
> > > ''I get up early, have breakfast, i.e. bread and butter,
> > > no coffee. I stay at home and work till seven, go out and
> > > have dinner, come back in an hour and stay at home and
> > > work till I go to bed. I must live most economically and
> > > avoid every expense not actually necessary. The free
> > > lodging is an immense help, for unless one lives in a
> > > perfect hole... I have not been to any theatre, except
> > > one evening, when I had to pay 2 francs for a cup of
> > > chocolate, I thought 'Never again'.''
> > >
> > > (b) To his mother. Paris, December 23, 1845.
> > >
> > > ''...instead of taking money from you, my dearest mother,
> > > I could have given you some little pleasure. But it was
> > > impossible, unless I sacrificed my whole future... I have
> > > again had to get 200 francs from Lederhose, and with the
> > > money you have just sent shall manage till January or
> > > February.''
> > >
> > > 5. On April 17, 1855, Bunsen wrote to thank Max Müller
> > > for an article on his Outlines.
> > >
> > > ''You have so thoroughly adopted the English disguise
> > > that it will not be easy for any one to suspect you of
> > > having written this 'curious article.' It especially
> > > delights me to see how ingeniously you contrive to say
> > > what you announce you do not wish to discuss, i.e. the
> > > purport of the theology. In short, we are all of opinion
> > > that your cousin was right when she said of you in Paris
> > > to Neukomm, that you ought to be in the diplomatic
> > > service!''
> > >
> > > 6. To his mother. September 1, 1847.
> > >
> > > ''My rooms in London are delightful. In the same house
> > > lives Dr. Trithen, an orientalist, whom I knew in Paris,
> > > and who was once employed in the Office for Foreign
> > > Affairs in St. Petersburg. Then there are a great many
> > > other orientalists in London, who are mostly living near
> > > me, and we form an oriental colony from all parts of the
> > > world... We have a good deal of fun at our cosmopolitan
> > > tea-evenings.''
> > >
> > > End of forwarded message
> > >
> > > Jai Maharaj
> > > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > > Om Shanti
> > >
> > > Panchaang for 21 Jyeshtth 5104, Sunday, June 22, 2003:
> > >
> > > Shubhanu Nama Samvatsare Dakshinaya Nartana Ritau
> > > Mithun Mase Krishna Pakshe Bhanu Vasara Yuktayam
> > > Revati Nakshatr Shobhan Yog
> > > Taitil-Gar Karan Navami Yam Tithau
> > >
> > > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> > >
> > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > > http://www.hindu.org
> > > http://www.hindunet.org
> > >
> > > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> > >
> > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> > > educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of
> > > this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily
represent
> > > the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law
> > > and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
> > > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> > > current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> > > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
others
> > > are not necessarily those of the poster.
missionaries are the best argument against freedom of speech.
I venture that many mommedan countries would opt for freedom of speech if
missionaries close their evil empire.
"Dr. Jai Maharaj" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> These Xtian missionaries infest the Net, too -- three
> of them are Dr. Andrew Chung, Ranjit Mathews and
> Prem Thomas -- what's the latest fake name he's using
> these days, "Snoopy"?
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "harmony" <[email protected]> posted:
> >
> > There was one british woman in those days, ms. mayo, who cobbled up a
book
> > on hindu civilization which mahatma gandhi called "gutter inspector's
> > report".
> > missionaires were the 4th wing of british military as one british prime
> > minister of those days described and used them. India still has
vestiges of
> > colonialism; those missionaries still roam around like those lost
japanese
> > soldiers of WW2, not knowing it is over. all missionaries are badly
needed
> > in europe where church pews are empty, not India which gave the world
true
> > idea of freedom.
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > Forwarded message
> > >
> > > Max Müller, A paid employee, who translated the Rigveda
> > > in a demeaning style. The hidden secrets of his life.
> > >
> > > 1. Max Müller was a British agent, especially employed
> > > (in 1847) to write the translations of the Vedas in such
> > > a demeaning way so that the Hindus should lose faith in
> > > them. His personal letter to his wife dated December 9,
> > > 1867 reveals this fact.
> > >
> > > 2. He was highly paid for this job. According to the
> > > statistical information given on page 214 of the
> > > ''English Education, 1798-1902'' by John William Adamson,
> > > printed by Cambridge University Press in 1930, the
> > > revised scale of a male teacher was £90 per year and for
> > > a woman, £60 in 1853. The present salary of a teacher in
> > > London is £14,000 to £36,000 per year, which averages a
> > > minimum of at least 200 times increase in the last 146
> > > years. Max Müller was paid £4 per sheet of his writing
> > > which comes to £800 of today (1999). This is an
> > > incredibly high price for only one sheet of writing. But
> > > it's the general law of business, that the price of a
> > > commodity increases with its demand. The British were in
> > > such an imperative need to get someone to do this job and
> > > Max Müller was the right person, so they paid whatever
> > > Max Müller asked for. His enthusiastic letter to his
> > > mother dated April 15, 1847 reveals this fact.
> > >
> > > 3. Max Müller's letters dated August 25, 1856 and
> > > December 16, 1868 reveal the fact that he was desperate
> > > to bring Christianity into India so that the religion of
> > > the Hindus should be doomed.
> > >
> > > His letters also reveal that:
> > >
> > > He lived in poverty before he was employed by the
> > > British,
> > >
> > > His duplicity in translation was praised by his
> > > superiors, and
> > >
> > > In London, where he lived, there were a lot of
> > > orientalists working for the British.
> > >
> > > Letters of Max Müller.
> > >
> > > ''The Life and Letters of Friedrich Max Müller.'' First
> > > published in 1902 (London and N.Y.). Reprint in 1976
> > > (USA).
> > >
> > > 1. TO HIS WIFE, OXFORD, December 9, 1867.
> > >
> > > ''...I feel convinced, though I shall not live to see it,
> > > that this edition of mine and the translation of the Veda
> > > will hereafter tell to a great extent on the fate of
> > > India, and on the growth of millions of souls in that
> > > country. It is the root of their religion, and to show
> > > them what that root is, I feel sure, the only way of
> > > uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last
> > > 3,000 years.''
> > >
> > > 2. TO HIS MOTHER, 5 NEWMAN'S ROW, LINCOLN'S INN FIELDS,
> > > April 15, 1847.
> > >
> > > ''I can yet hardly believe that I have at last got what I
> > > have struggled for so long... I am to hand over to the
> > > Company, ready for press, fifty sheets each year; for
> > > this I have asked £200 a year, £4 a sheet. They have been
> > > considering the matter since December, and it was only
> > > yesterday that it was officially settled.''
> > >
> > > ''...In fact, I spent a delightful time, and when I
> > > reached London yesterday I found all settled, and I could
> > > say and feel, Thank God! Now I must at once send my
> > > thanks, and set to work to earn the first £100.''
> > >
> > > 3. To Chevalier Bunsen. 55 St. John Street, Oxford,
> > > August 25, 1856.
> > >
> > > ''India is much riper for Christianity than Rome or
> > > Greece were at the time of St. Paul. The rotten tree has
> > > for some time had artificial supports... For the good of
> > > this struggle I should like to lay down my life, or at
> > > least to lend my hand to bring about this struggle.
> > > Dhulip Singh is much at Court, and is evidently destined
> > > to play a political part in India.''
> > >
> > > To the duke of Argyll. Oxford, December 16, 1868.
> > >
> > > ''India has been conquered once, but India must be
> > > conquered again, and that second conquest should be a
> > > conquest by education. Much has been done for education
> > > of late, but if the funds were tripled and quadrupled,
> > > that would hardly be enough... A new national literature
> > > may spring up, impregnated with western ideas, yet
> > > retaining its native spirit and character... A new
> > > national literature will bring with it a new national
> > > life, and new moral vigour. As to religion, that will
> > > take care of itself. The missionaries have done far more
> > > than they themselves seem to be aware of.''
> > >
> > > ''The ancient religion of India is doomed, and if
> > > Christianity does not step in, whose fault will it be?''
> > >
> > > 4. (a) From the diary of Max Müller. Paris. April 10,
> > > 1845.
> > >
> > > ''I get up early, have breakfast, i.e. bread and butter,
> > > no coffee. I stay at home and work till seven, go out and
> > > have dinner, come back in an hour and stay at home and
> > > work till I go to bed. I must live most economically and
> > > avoid every expense not actually necessary. The free
> > > lodging is an immense help, for unless one lives in a
> > > perfect hole... I have not been to any theatre, except
> > > one evening, when I had to pay 2 francs for a cup of
> > > chocolate, I thought 'Never again'.''
> > >
> > > (b) To his mother. Paris, December 23, 1845.
> > >
> > > ''...instead of taking money from you, my dearest mother,
> > > I could have given you some little pleasure. But it was
> > > impossible, unless I sacrificed my whole future... I have
> > > again had to get 200 francs from Lederhose, and with the
> > > money you have just sent shall manage till January or
> > > February.''
> > >
> > > 5. On April 17, 1855, Bunsen wrote to thank Max Müller
> > > for an article on his Outlines.
> > >
> > > ''You have so thoroughly adopted the English disguise
> > > that it will not be easy for any one to suspect you of
> > > having written this 'curious article.' It especially
> > > delights me to see how ingeniously you contrive to say
> > > what you announce you do not wish to discuss, i.e. the
> > > purport of the theology. In short, we are all of opinion
> > > that your cousin was right when she said of you in Paris
> > > to Neukomm, that you ought to be in the diplomatic
> > > service!''
> > >
> > > 6. To his mother. September 1, 1847.
> > >
> > > ''My rooms in London are delightful. In the same house
> > > lives Dr. Trithen, an orientalist, whom I knew in Paris,
> > > and who was once employed in the Office for Foreign
> > > Affairs in St. Petersburg. Then there are a great many
> > > other orientalists in London, who are mostly living near
> > > me, and we form an oriental colony from all parts of the
> > > world... We have a good deal of fun at our cosmopolitan
> > > tea-evenings.''
> > >
> > > End of forwarded message
> > >
> > > Jai Maharaj
> > > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > > Om Shanti
> > >
> > > Panchaang for 21 Jyeshtth 5104, Sunday, June 22, 2003:
> > >
> > > Shubhanu Nama Samvatsare Dakshinaya Nartana Ritau
> > > Mithun Mase Krishna Pakshe Bhanu Vasara Yuktayam
> > > Revati Nakshatr Shobhan Yog
> > > Taitil-Gar Karan Navami Yam Tithau
> > >
> > > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> > >
> > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > > http://www.hindu.org
> > > http://www.hindunet.org
> > >
> > > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> > >
> > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> > > educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of
> > > this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily
represent
> > > the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law
> > > and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
> > > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> > > current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> > > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
others
> > > are not necessarily those of the poster.