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Re: Tandem brakes

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  1. Colin Blackburn said:


    I was walking in and around the Howgills over the bank holiday. One
    walk, away from the Howgills proper, took me to Dent. Sitting in a pub
    at the end of the walk, sampling some fine beers from the Dent Brewery,
    a tandem with a baby seat pulled into the outside seating area-cum-car
    park.

    [Aside: The stoker got off and took the toddler from the seat. As she
    walked towards me I noticed she had a Che Guevara (sp?) t-shirt on.
    Right next to me was a Skoda with a Che Guevara stencil on the boot
    lid. She noticed the car's stencil and said to the toddler, "Look Che,
    it's Che!" It turned out the toddle was named Che, after Che G.]

    When I went in for the next round I had a look at the then parked up
    tandem, an Orbit, and noticed it had both disc and V brakes on the rear
    wheel. I know tandems need very efficient brakes but is it normal to
    have two rear brakes in addition to a front brake? Is the second rear
    brake used in conjunction with the first or as an emergency brake?

    Tandems should all have a rear hub brake. The rim brake is there for
    stopping; the hub brake is as a drag brake and heatsink on long
    descents, because otherwise tyres will blow off the hot rims [1]. Often
    the rear brake is operated via a thumbshifter because it's designed to
    be left on for long periods.

    I've seen a newer tandem with front and rear Hope disc brakes and no rim
    brakes. This also works well although the discs will get extremely hot
    (the riders were a substantial Geordie couple - if you see a blue tandem
    with "Howay the lads" at the front of the top tube and "Wor lass" at the
    rear, that's them!).

    [1] tyres rarely blow off solo bikes, but tandems have to dissipate
    twice the energy with the same number of wheels, so it's a real problem

  2. "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Tandems should all have a rear hub brake. The rim brake is there for
    stopping; the hub brake is as a drag brake and heatsink on long
    descents, because otherwise tyres will blow off the hot rims [1]. Often
    the rear brake is operated via a thumbshifter because it's designed to
    be left on for long periods.

    I wouldn't go that far - I'd say tandems used in hilly country where you
    have to brake could benefit from a drag brake. We were touring in Devon with
    friends, both on fully laden tandems, and they only had the two rim brakes.
    No tyre problems because the hills weren't long enough. We didn't use our
    drag brake that much - mostly it gave my hands an easy time.
    Times I've appreciated having the drag brake:
    Descent into Dent from Barbon
    Hills in the Jura. (not the bigger alps - the descents were fast enough that
    I didn't need the heat capacity).
    I wanted one for the descent of rhynose - we melted a patch on that one, and
    my hands hurt. I refitted ours shortly after that. But prior to that we'd
    done a fair bit of riding round here (dales - not exactly flat!) and it was
    fine.

    cheers,
    clive

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