Re: The issue with grains, some clarifications?

"You are right about the Okinawan diet. The Weston A. Price site gives
inaccurate information about the Okinawan diet. The red meat consumption
is
*very* low among Okinawan elders."

His data collection techniques leave much to be desired. They do eat pork
on holidays and more also among the rich. His typical plan was to drop
into a place and ask around and observe and make unsupported evaluations
of the "normal" diet. His research in africa, the pacific islands, and
else where are also examples of this poor technique. The only well
established point of his research is that increasing the use of sugar in
one's diet increases greatly the amount of tooth decay, which he a dentist
was best trained to evaluate.

[email hidden] wrote:
:: "Then there's the Okinawans, with their greasy pork filled diet.
:: Almost no CVD, diabetes, and extraordinary longevity."
::
:: The pork is a luxury food eaten a few times a year, a sub fraction
:: of the 3 percent of meat in their diets. The diet is a good example
:: of the e. diet.
::
:: "Eat like an Okinawan"
::
:: http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/wl/2001/wlFeatured0901.html
::
:: "The Okinawan diet might well amaze Americans. The average citizen
:: consumes at least seven servings of vegetables daily, and an equal
:: number of grains (in the form of noodles, bread, and rice--many of
:: them whole grains). Add to this two to four servings of fruit, plus
:: tofu and other forms of soy, green tea, seaweed, and fish rich in
:: omega-3s (three times weekly). Sweet potatoes, bean sprouts, onions,
:: and green peppers are prominent in the diet. Vegetables, grains, and
:: fruits make up 72% of the diet by weight. Soy and seaweed provide
:: another 14%. Meat, poultry, and eggs account for just 3% of the diet,
:: fish about 11%. The emphasis is on dark green vegetables rich in
:: calcium (Okinawans, like other Japanese, don't eat much dairy).
:: Okinawans do drink alcohol, but women usually stick to one drink a
:: day, while men average twice that. Moderation is the key.
::
:: short, the average Okinawan's diet is far richer in complex
:: carbohydrates and plant-based foods, and lower in fat, than the
:: average American's. (It's completely different from low-carbohydrate
:: plans like the Atkins and Zone diets.)"

You are right about the Okinawan diet. The Weston A. Price site gives
inaccurate information about the Okinawan diet. The red meat consumption is
*very* low among Okinawan elders.

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Juhana

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Quoted message said:

"Then there's the Okinawans, with their greasy pork filled diet. Almost
no CVD, diabetes, and extraordinary longevity."

The pork is a luxury food eaten a few times a year, a sub fraction of the
3 percent of meat in their diets. The diet is a good example of the e.
diet.

No, I believe you and Berkely got that wrong, in an effort to prop up bias.

Susan