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Reuben Hick
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"Andre" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Although obviously a troll, I would have to agree. The bulk of fossil
fuels
> are expended in a ridiculous gridlock across the continent.
Which the US Interstate and rail systems are remarkably efficient compared
to what was available before. This "gridlock" which you have contempt for,
is also used to ferry the goods and services you consume. Ever try to
deliver refrigerated produce on a bicycle?
How about the animal lover who considers leather goods evil? The
substitute, plastics, are made from fossil fuels. Fertilizers are made of
fossil fuels, and the electricy that is powering your computer so you can
post your luddite views is probably not functioning from a generator
attached to your bicycle, but you are consuming electricity made by fossil
fuels.
> If people would get off their fat asses and commute by bike...
Which is the mark of a backwards turd world country. Ever hear of the
rickshaw? Is that what you want the world to regress to? Start your
bitching now at the Far East as they discard such horribly inefficent modes
of transportation and enter the modern era and grab an increasing percentage
of the Midlle Eastern oil. If you hate technology, why are you using a
computer? Go back to your cold, dark cave and eat whatever you can forage
in your area, and dress with whatever plant material you can stich together.
> then the
> hapless US troops could be pulled out of harm's way in Iraq.
What a great f'ing plan. Tear up a country and then leave it especially when
it is vulnerable so that some bevy of warlords or hostile nation can swoop
right on in and pick up where Saddam Hussein left off. What
humanitarianism you have. Instead of introducing a country into the modern
world, you want everyone, particularly those with "fat asses" to return to a
primitive lifestyle ruled by thoughtless tyrants.
Did it ever occur to you that in the Middle East, if it wasn't for oil,
those people would have nothing? Perhaps you can list the non-petroleum
exports they have (other than terrorism). Lets talk about the industry that
produces goods and services that is there. that would be a brief
conversation. Other than pilgrims going to Mecca, what kind of tourism
industry is there?
You liberals need to get your stories straight. All along you folks have
been saying that the oil embargo against Iraq is what caused all of their
poverty, sickness and despair. IOW, if they were able to export huge
quantities of oil, they would be all rich and pacific. So in the mind of a
liberal, Oil = Prosperity. Oil Emargo = Poverty. So what is the
difference between an oil embargo, that reduces the consumption of oil, and
using the barrel of a gun to force people with "fat asses" to reduce their
demand for Iraqi oil?
I see the difference this way. You WANT people to live poor and miserable
lives. It bothers you that a free people can have choices. You loathe
those who disagree with you and you wish that there was some mechanism in
which you can force your myopic views on others.
> Don't flame me for this. You know it's true.
You must live in a small world. In the course of a week, I travel more than
600 miles. I don't think that Lance Armstrong would attempt to travel that
distance on a bicycle each week for months on end. Ever hear of weather?
Do you really invision arthritic granny pedaling her Schwinn several miles
in bad weather to get her meds? Do you really see in your Utopia a world
where sales people visit their clients, or where technicians who service
their accounts, or contractors who commute to their job sites do so on the
bicycle?
Don't you know that a bicycle is highly inefficient? The cost per mile of a
bicycle (when you consider the cost of fuel - Food vs Petroleum) is much
higher. I can load-up my motorcycle with 80 lbs of cargo and travel 200
miles on $6 worth of fuel. I will get to my destination in three hours.
How cheaply can you do that on your bicycle? How many days will it take?
Will you sleep on the side of the road or spend money on lodging? Do you
value your time spent? How cheaply can someone who is not as phyically fit
as you do it?
Or will you, in your infinite wisdom, decide by fiat who is worthy enough to
travel by motor vehicle and who is deemed unworthy and is forced to commute
by foot or pedal?
news:[email protected]...
> Although obviously a troll, I would have to agree. The bulk of fossil
fuels
> are expended in a ridiculous gridlock across the continent.
Which the US Interstate and rail systems are remarkably efficient compared
to what was available before. This "gridlock" which you have contempt for,
is also used to ferry the goods and services you consume. Ever try to
deliver refrigerated produce on a bicycle?
How about the animal lover who considers leather goods evil? The
substitute, plastics, are made from fossil fuels. Fertilizers are made of
fossil fuels, and the electricy that is powering your computer so you can
post your luddite views is probably not functioning from a generator
attached to your bicycle, but you are consuming electricity made by fossil
fuels.
> If people would get off their fat asses and commute by bike...
Which is the mark of a backwards turd world country. Ever hear of the
rickshaw? Is that what you want the world to regress to? Start your
bitching now at the Far East as they discard such horribly inefficent modes
of transportation and enter the modern era and grab an increasing percentage
of the Midlle Eastern oil. If you hate technology, why are you using a
computer? Go back to your cold, dark cave and eat whatever you can forage
in your area, and dress with whatever plant material you can stich together.
> then the
> hapless US troops could be pulled out of harm's way in Iraq.
What a great f'ing plan. Tear up a country and then leave it especially when
it is vulnerable so that some bevy of warlords or hostile nation can swoop
right on in and pick up where Saddam Hussein left off. What
humanitarianism you have. Instead of introducing a country into the modern
world, you want everyone, particularly those with "fat asses" to return to a
primitive lifestyle ruled by thoughtless tyrants.
Did it ever occur to you that in the Middle East, if it wasn't for oil,
those people would have nothing? Perhaps you can list the non-petroleum
exports they have (other than terrorism). Lets talk about the industry that
produces goods and services that is there. that would be a brief
conversation. Other than pilgrims going to Mecca, what kind of tourism
industry is there?
You liberals need to get your stories straight. All along you folks have
been saying that the oil embargo against Iraq is what caused all of their
poverty, sickness and despair. IOW, if they were able to export huge
quantities of oil, they would be all rich and pacific. So in the mind of a
liberal, Oil = Prosperity. Oil Emargo = Poverty. So what is the
difference between an oil embargo, that reduces the consumption of oil, and
using the barrel of a gun to force people with "fat asses" to reduce their
demand for Iraqi oil?
I see the difference this way. You WANT people to live poor and miserable
lives. It bothers you that a free people can have choices. You loathe
those who disagree with you and you wish that there was some mechanism in
which you can force your myopic views on others.
> Don't flame me for this. You know it's true.
You must live in a small world. In the course of a week, I travel more than
600 miles. I don't think that Lance Armstrong would attempt to travel that
distance on a bicycle each week for months on end. Ever hear of weather?
Do you really invision arthritic granny pedaling her Schwinn several miles
in bad weather to get her meds? Do you really see in your Utopia a world
where sales people visit their clients, or where technicians who service
their accounts, or contractors who commute to their job sites do so on the
bicycle?
Don't you know that a bicycle is highly inefficient? The cost per mile of a
bicycle (when you consider the cost of fuel - Food vs Petroleum) is much
higher. I can load-up my motorcycle with 80 lbs of cargo and travel 200
miles on $6 worth of fuel. I will get to my destination in three hours.
How cheaply can you do that on your bicycle? How many days will it take?
Will you sleep on the side of the road or spend money on lodging? Do you
value your time spent? How cheaply can someone who is not as phyically fit
as you do it?
Or will you, in your infinite wisdom, decide by fiat who is worthy enough to
travel by motor vehicle and who is deemed unworthy and is forced to commute
by foot or pedal?
