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Edward Dolan
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"Jules Augley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
>> I have. Start with http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/scb7, which refutes
>> the research you are doing before you have even done it, since you are
>> falling into the same fallacy as all the other "researchers".
>
> I have seen your website. I want to know what peer-reviewed work you have
> had published. Presentations at U.C. Berkeley dont count. All I can see
> on your website is a very short list of mostly books, although some
> primary literature with specific relevance to mountain bikes, none of
> which is yours by the way, that you say support your bizarre 'peeve'. I
> see no mention of any actual research you have done, no data, nothing. You
> claim to be an expert, well I want to see some objective evidence. You
> could make sections of your phd and masters theses available for scrutiny?
> How about that?. I should also point out, again, it was a student of mine
> that did the research, and no this isnt me disowning it, its a good piece
> of work (albeit with a lack of maturity in the writing that only years of
> practice can remedy) and I would certainly view his work as more
> scientifically objective and valid than any of the polemic you spew all
> over your webspace. I do admire your tenacity (or ability to stick your
> fingers in your ears and shout 'lalalala'), however, you could definitely
> do with a change of focus and try to do something that would actually make
> a difference to the world.
Jules, I am the real expert on this matter of hiking vs. biking on trails.
To my credit, I have not polluted my mind with any research. Yea, I am as
pure as the driven snow.
My credentials are that I hiked for 10 years almost every day for 8 months
of the year all over the US. I did this when I was in my 30's during the
late 60's and early 70's. During that time I never encountered a single bike
on any of my sacred trails. I mean, it does not get any better than that!
In more recent years I have encountered some bikes on my sacred trails. They
do not belong on my scared trails. Who gives a good g.d. if they cause any
trail destruction or not. I do not want them on my scared trails. Let them
get their own g.d. trails.
Like all scholars, you are blind to the real issues. You do not need any
higher degrees to know what is appropriate and what is not. All you need is
some common sense. I suggest you get out of your freaking ivory tower and go
do some hiking in the wilderness and then tell us if you would like bikers
along side of you.
I am not a purist like Vandeman, but like him I do not like bikes on my
sacred trails. He is more right than you are despite what your freaking
research brings out. I am the quintessential hiker and I do not like bikers
polluting my scared trails. That is what you have to wrap your mind around.
Unless and until you do, you are irrelevant.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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> >
>> I have. Start with http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/scb7, which refutes
>> the research you are doing before you have even done it, since you are
>> falling into the same fallacy as all the other "researchers".
>
> I have seen your website. I want to know what peer-reviewed work you have
> had published. Presentations at U.C. Berkeley dont count. All I can see
> on your website is a very short list of mostly books, although some
> primary literature with specific relevance to mountain bikes, none of
> which is yours by the way, that you say support your bizarre 'peeve'. I
> see no mention of any actual research you have done, no data, nothing. You
> claim to be an expert, well I want to see some objective evidence. You
> could make sections of your phd and masters theses available for scrutiny?
> How about that?. I should also point out, again, it was a student of mine
> that did the research, and no this isnt me disowning it, its a good piece
> of work (albeit with a lack of maturity in the writing that only years of
> practice can remedy) and I would certainly view his work as more
> scientifically objective and valid than any of the polemic you spew all
> over your webspace. I do admire your tenacity (or ability to stick your
> fingers in your ears and shout 'lalalala'), however, you could definitely
> do with a change of focus and try to do something that would actually make
> a difference to the world.
Jules, I am the real expert on this matter of hiking vs. biking on trails.
To my credit, I have not polluted my mind with any research. Yea, I am as
pure as the driven snow.
My credentials are that I hiked for 10 years almost every day for 8 months
of the year all over the US. I did this when I was in my 30's during the
late 60's and early 70's. During that time I never encountered a single bike
on any of my sacred trails. I mean, it does not get any better than that!
In more recent years I have encountered some bikes on my sacred trails. They
do not belong on my scared trails. Who gives a good g.d. if they cause any
trail destruction or not. I do not want them on my scared trails. Let them
get their own g.d. trails.
Like all scholars, you are blind to the real issues. You do not need any
higher degrees to know what is appropriate and what is not. All you need is
some common sense. I suggest you get out of your freaking ivory tower and go
do some hiking in the wilderness and then tell us if you would like bikers
along side of you.
I am not a purist like Vandeman, but like him I do not like bikes on my
sacred trails. He is more right than you are despite what your freaking
research brings out. I am the quintessential hiker and I do not like bikers
polluting my scared trails. That is what you have to wrap your mind around.
Unless and until you do, you are irrelevant.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota