Re: Want to be hit by a car while riding a bicycle? Wear a helmet!



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oldhickory

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A former riding partner of mine used to ride with a 9mm shoved down the back
of his shorts, the butt of the gun exposed enough for overtaking vehicles to
see. Said it brought the near-miss rate with vehicles down considerably. I
think it was when he rode in AZ where exposed side arms were legal.

--
ie
ride fast, take chances.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thanks Carl. Although I'm somewhat disappointed. I was hoping it was
> done with two insert cars fitted with theodolites.
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On 12 Sep 2006 12:33:08 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Some very amusing blog entries from the Guardian on topic:
>> >
>> >http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2006/09/12/on_their_heads_be_it.html
>> >
>> >It's heartening to see that civil discourse is international.
>> >
>> >Now all I want to know is how were the measurements made.
>> >Cheers,
>> >MD
>> >
>> >
>> >[email protected] wrote:
>> >> Kenny wrote:
>> >> > Kenny wrote:
>> >> > > Found this by way of Digg. http://tinyurl.com/m92br
>> >> >
>> >> > Forgot about this link.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://tinyurl.com/odxv3
>> >>
>> >> Dear Kenny,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks--interesting article technical article, so I'll shamelessly
>> >> hijack it to rec.bicycles.tech.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Carl Fogel

>>
>> Dear YC,
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/691047edda1c010e
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel

>
 
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Espressopithecus (Java Man)

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> A former riding partner of mine used to ride with a 9mm shoved down the back
> of his shorts, the butt of the gun exposed enough for overtaking vehicles to
> see.
>

Too subtle for the kind of drivers I'm most worried about. It's hard
for them to see the road (let alone a cyclist, or whether that cyclist
is carrying) with the competing demands of dialing the cell phone,
drinking their Starbucks Venti and applying makeup.

Rick
 
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Dane Buson

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In rec.bicycles.misc Espressopithecus (Java Man) <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> A former riding partner of mine used to ride with a 9mm shoved down the back
>> of his shorts, the butt of the gun exposed enough for overtaking vehicles to
>> see.
>>

> Too subtle for the kind of drivers I'm most worried about. It's hard
> for them to see the road (let alone a cyclist, or whether that cyclist
> is carrying) with the competing demands of dialing the cell phone,
> drinking their Starbucks Venti and applying makeup.


Well that, and how can you possibly expect them to pay attention to the
road with all the racket the kids in the back on the SUV are making? [1]
Also it's patently unfair to expect them to share the road with scruffy
cyclists. After all, you can pick one up at Wally world for $69 bucks,
so you should make way for their $60,000 life necessity.

[1] Behind carefully tinted windows. Wouldn't want anyone to think
you're not a sexy successful single. [2]
[2] http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0212.mencimer.html

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Dane Buson - [email protected]
"Why would you want to be born again? Didn't you get it right
the first time?" -Angela
 
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* * Chas

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Kenny wrote:
> > Kenny wrote:
> > > Found this by way of Digg. http://tinyurl.com/m92br

> >
> > Forgot about this link.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/odxv3

>
> Dear Kenny,
>
> Thanks--interesting article technical article, so I'll shamelessly
> hijack it to rec.bicycles.tech.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
>


Carl,

How can you apply his test results worldwide when he gathered his data
in a country where they drive on the WRONG side of the road!

Also, drivers in the UK play a lot more "who's going to blink first",
for example in round-abouts, they try to avoid eye contact.

Chas.
 
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(PeteCresswell)

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Per Espressopithecus:
> It's hard
>for them to see the road (let alone a cyclist, or whether that cyclist
>is carrying) with the competing demands of dialing the cell phone,
>drinking their Starbucks Venti and applying makeup.


And don't forget text messaging and checking eMail....-)
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PeteCresswell
 
Brucie, I'd cross the yellow line to run you down.

Are you as obnoxious on this forum as yuo are everywhere else? As
usual, you disagree with someone here.

I love your alias --- it goes along with swiftsurfer, swiftsailor,
swiftprofitmaker, swiftskier, swiftmouth. How 'bout swiftidiot and
swiftmoron as your next two aliases?



swiftcycler wrote:
> I disagree with that observation totally. I find as a motorists that
> Americans drive too close to the center line. I think that mainly
> there are a lot of lonely people out there who both think that they own
> the road and also want to let anyone coming against them that they are
> willing to assert their claims. However, this would be an indication
> that the driver would be male. I have also observed that many women
> won't cross the yellow line even when they are endangering a pedestrian
> coming against the traffic. They have this asnine view of toeing the
> line, strictly adhering to the law, which can be rather annoying. I
> find on these narrow country roads I ride that men in their pick-ups
> will not only speed but cross the yellow lines when passing. Women
> will speed but rarely cross the yellow lines even with a clear view of
> the empty road ahead. However, of course there are exceptions.
> Marlene Blanshay wrote:
> > Wayne Pein wrote:
> > > He rode between 0.25 meters (10 inches; a real "gutter bunny") and 1.25
> > > meters (4 feet 1 inch; about the location of a typical US bike lane
> > > stripe) from road edge. This is not sufficient distance to effect
> > > positive change in motorists. He merely used up some of the passing
> > > clearance that UK motorists typically afford a bicyclist riding such
> > > distance from the side. I also would like to see his data cross
> > > tabulated for distance from edge, passing distance, and lane width. It
> > > would be interesting to see if his data are skewed.
> > >
> > > I surmise that there is a tipping point at which a bicyclist uses enough
> > > of available lane width that it compels motorists to give considerably
> > > more clearance. That is my experience here in the US anyway.
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > >

> > i have noticed in the last few weeks that american drivers have a
> > tendency to drive VERY CLOSE to the curb. A few times I've been
> > practically grazed by cars passing me and noticed they were from the US.
> > This on a designated shared road that has millions of signs saying, "in
> > a hurry? Take the highway!"
> >
> > it's like they have no concept of a shared road or simply begrudge
> > yielding any space. Other people have noticed this as well, and I've
> > seen it in american cities. Cars drive by like 2 inches from the
> > sidewalk. No wonder i hear so many horror stories from cyclists... as
> > bad as drivers here are, they at least give you some leeway even if they
> > honk or yell at you.
 
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Bill Sornson

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[email protected] wrote:

> Brucie, I'd cross the yellow line to run you down.
>
> Are you as obnoxious on this forum as yuo are everywhere else? As
> usual, you disagree with someone here.
>
> I love your alias --- it goes along with swiftsurfer, swiftsailor,
> swiftprofitmaker, swiftskier, swiftmouth. How 'bout swiftidiot and
> swiftmoron as your next two aliases?
>


Top-posting anonymous moron makes threats while exhibiting hypocrisy at its
most ironic.

Doesn't get much better than that...

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> swiftcycler wrote:


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