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Damn Tom, I leave for a week or so and come back to see you looking all
beaten up and defeated. But I know you've just been rope-a-doping while I
was away and at any moment you'll be unleashing your killer retorts and
irrefutable arguments.

skip

 

[Tom Sherman]

Freewheeling wrote:

> "I am keeping an open mind about Usama bin Laden, as he has yet to state
> his preference for highracers or lowracers."
>
> Sorry I treated you like an adult. My mistake.

When someone who is intelligent and educated enough to know better
supports a regime that commits illegal conquests of sovereign countries,
ignores its own constitution, tortures prisoners, implements a creeping
police state domestically, and shows a general contempt for justice,
human rights, the environment, long term planning, and the rule of law,
there is no longer any point in having a discussion with them, other
than for entertainment purposes.

Therefore, I choose to be facetious.

P.S. This newsgroup is in all likelihood not read by anyone who is
looking to hire right-wing political scientists at a high salary.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

 

[Tom Sherman]

[email protected] wrote:

> Damn Tom, I leave for a week or so and come back to see you looking all
> beaten up and defeated. But I know you've just been rope-a-doping while I
> was away and at any moment you'll be unleashing your killer retorts and
> irrefutable arguments.

What would be the point? Only a handful of people read the political
threads, and the chance of anyone changing his/her mind approaches zero.
And as Earl Russell has pointed out to me, it annoys a lot of people for
no good purpose.

I prefer to annoy people by talking about my Earth Cycles Sunset
Lowracer [TM] to no end, which happens to be on topic for this newsgroup.

What is up with the email address? Using <http://qualitybikes.com> leads
to <http://www.bicycleblowout.com/>.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

 

[Freewheeling]

"When someone who is intelligent and educated enough to know better
supports a regime that commits illegal conquests of sovereign countries,
ignores its own constitution, tortures prisoners, implements a creeping
police state domestically, and shows a general contempt for justice,
human rights, the environment, long term planning, and the rule of law,
there is no longer any point in having a discussion with them, other
than for entertainment purposes.

Therefore, I choose to be facetious."

I don't suppose you'd care to actually debate any of those "point?" Right.
I thought not.

Well, when a supposedly intelligence person ends up crafting talking points
that have been used by the very folks sawing off the heads of civilians in
Iraq, in open opposition to the establishment of the first Arab regime that
honors the rule of law, by citizens willing to risk their lives to cast a
vote, and who characterizes a president who'd rather pay a small price now,
than an enormous price later, for the common defense... willing, indeed, to
put his own presidency on the line for the sake of principle... as a
criminal, well... I can see why you might not want to debate any of those
fine points. But you're a very long way from a Democrat like "give 'em hell
Harry."


(And don't bother bringing up the Hiroshima/Nagasaki meme. The fact is that
Japan damn near didn't surrender even after that. Harry read that situation
perfectly.)
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--Scott
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Freewheeling wrote:
>
>> "I am keeping an open mind about Usama bin Laden, as he has yet to state
>> his preference for highracers or lowracers."
>>
>> Sorry I treated you like an adult. My mistake.
>
> When someone who is intelligent and educated enough to know better
> supports a regime that commits illegal conquests of sovereign countries,
> ignores its own constitution, tortures prisoners, implements a creeping
> police state domestically, and shows a general contempt for justice, human
> rights, the environment, long term planning, and the rule of law, there is
> no longer any point in having a discussion with them, other than for
> entertainment purposes.
>
> Therefore, I choose to be facetious.
>
> P.S. This newsgroup is in all likelihood not read by anyone who is looking
> to hire right-wing political scientists at a high salary.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth
>

 

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Look Tom I know you must be having a difficult time dealing with the current
political landscape. Our economy is looking up (except for the deficits of
course). A discussion of reforming our actuarially absurd Social Security
system may actually be possible. Dr. Rice was confirmed and we are hearing
African- Americans complain about the appalling treatment she received at
the hands of some of the democratic leadership. It looks as if terrorist
aren't going to stop the elections in Iraq even if the voters have to go to
the polls in ski masks and with arms. The Palestinian terrorists are being
moderated and peace may even have a chance there now that Arafat is dead.
The reward for Osama is being upped to 50 million dollars ( I know - he
ain't worth it) and that might be enough to get some war lords looking for
his butt.

So how's that hemp seat holding up?

skip

PS: If you need to get in touch with me just leave a message with the guys
at Bicycle Blowout

 

[Tom Sherman]

Freewheeling wrote:

> ...
> I don't suppose you'd care to actually debate any of those "point?" Right.
> I thought not....

This reminds me of the way children attempt to bait other children into
doing something stupid or wrong by saying they are a coward for not
doing so.

Nice troll, but I am not biting.

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Tom Sherman - Earth

 

[Tom Sherman]

[email protected] wrote:

> Look Tom I know you must be having a difficult time dealing with the current
> political landscape. Our economy is looking up (except for the deficits of
> course). A discussion of reforming our actuarially absurd Social Security
> system may actually be possible. Dr. Rice was confirmed and we are hearing
> African- Americans complain about the appalling treatment she received at
> the hands of some of the democratic leadership. It looks as if terrorist
> aren't going to stop the elections in Iraq even if the voters have to go to
> the polls in ski masks and with arms. The Palestinian terrorists are being
> moderated and peace may even have a chance there now that Arafat is dead.
> The reward for Osama is being upped to 50 million dollars ( I know - he
> ain't worth it) and that might be enough to get some war lords looking for
> his butt.

Nice troll bait, but I refuse to irritate others by responding to it.

> So how's that hemp seat holding up?...

Wear is fine, but the dye [1] is coming off. The seat mesh is in worse
shape; having been subject to a couple of crashes (some mine, some by
previous owners). The “Sunfoam” does not appear to compress much at all
with use. Overall, still the most comfortable recumbent seat I have used
and quite a bit lighter than the RANS and Bacchetta mesh seats.

[1] Note: the pad was dyed by a previous owner, not Earth Cycles.

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Tom Sherman - Earth

 

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What kind of dye is best for a Earth Cycle seat pad? I think I might like
to dye my RANS seat pad, but I don't want to use the kind of dye the
previous owner of your Earth Cycle used. I'm getting tired of the basic
black color RANS uses. Does the dye you would use come in colors? I'm
leaning toward Red, but I surely want to have it to fade to pink, which I'm
sure you can understand based on another thread. No telling what manner of
innuendo might be posted to the newsgroup if a certain person were to get
wind of it.

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[Tom Sherman]

[email protected] wrote:

> What kind of dye is best for a Earth Cycle seat pad? I think I might like
> to dye my RANS seat pad, but I don't want to use the kind of dye the
> previous owner of your Earth Cycle used. I'm getting tired of the basic
> black color RANS uses. Does the dye you would use come in colors? I'm
> leaning toward Red, but I surely want to have it to fade to pink, which I'm
> sure you can understand based on another thread. No telling what manner of
> innuendo might be posted to the newsgroup if a certain person were to get
> wind of it.

The Earth Cycles seat pad cover is hemp fiber, while the RANS seat cover
feels like a synthetic (nylon?) fiber/lycra blend, so the same dye might
perform differently. Anyhow, I doubt you could dye an already black pad
a lighter color.

Speaking of people named Perry, making seat covers is likely something
"Bentcajungirl" could do, considering she has been a supplier of seat
mesh to a recumbent manufacturer.

You could ask Melanie at Free Form Fashions to see if she would make you
a custom seat cover. She certainly seems to find "interesting" fabric
patterns for body socks and the storage bags she makes for Zzipper fairings.

[1] <http://www.bikeroute.com/FreeFormFashions/>.

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Tom Sherman - Earth

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Damn Tom, I leave for a week or so and come back to see you looking all
>> beaten up and defeated. But I know you've just been rope-a-doping while
>> I
>> was away and at any moment you'll be unleashing your killer retorts and
>> irrefutable arguments.
>
> What would be the point? Only a handful of people read the political
> threads, and the chance of anyone changing his/her mind approaches zero.
> And as Earl Russell has pointed out to me, it annoys a lot of people for
> no good purpose.

We shall see if this wacko far left wing (socialist-communist) nut case can
keep his big mouth shut when the Great Ed Dolan begins to wax poetic on many
an issue. I see that Google has this group down as being "active" with
perhaps 10 to 100 participants. However, there may be many times that number
who are lurking and following this group.

It amuses me that Mr. Sherman is all of a sudden concerned with annoying
others when that was never a concern of his before. Skip has got it right.
The recent election and the ways things are going generally have convinced
him to shut up for the moment. But I have every confidence that he will
soon be back in fighting trim. After all, once a nut, always a nut (barring
youthful indiscretions of course).

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Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

 

[Tom Sherman]

Edward Dolan wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Damn Tom, I leave for a week or so and come back to see you looking all
>>>beaten up and defeated. But I know you've just been rope-a-doping while
>>>I
>>>was away and at any moment you'll be unleashing your killer retorts and
>>>irrefutable arguments.
>>
>>What would be the point? Only a handful of people read the political
>>threads, and the chance of anyone changing his/her mind approaches zero.
>>And as Earl Russell has pointed out to me, it annoys a lot of people for
>>no good purpose.
>
>
> We shall see if this wacko far left wing (socialist-communist) nut case can
> keep his big mouth shut when the Great Ed Dolan begins to wax poetic on many
> an issue. I see that Google has this group down as being "active" with
> perhaps 10 to 100 participants. However, there may be many times that number
> who are lurking and following this group.
>
> It amuses me that Mr. Sherman is all of a sudden concerned with annoying
> others when that was never a concern of his before. Skip has got it right.
> The recent election and the ways things are going generally have convinced
> him to shut up for the moment. But I have every confidence that he will
> soon be back in fighting trim. After all, once a nut, always a nut (barring
> youthful indiscretions of course).

Schadenfreude is unseemly.

60 million ignorant people can easily be wrong.

After all, more than ninety-nine (99) percent of bicycles sold are
uprights, but does that make the upright design superior to the
recumbent design? Of course not!

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Tom Sherman - Earth

 

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Ed, I'm worried about Tom. I'm concerned he has suddenly come to realize
he's on the wrong side of political history and this has him stressed to the
point that he's just about shut down mentally. As it is now he seems to
only want to talk about his sunset bicycle. You might try to draw him out a
bit - maybe pretend you don't have enough sense to buy a chain for your bike
and ask his advice. I think his condition is quite fragile at the moment
and he needs to be dealt with gently for the time being.

skip

 

[Tom Sherman]

[email protected] wrote:

> Ed, I'm worried about Tom. I'm concerned he has suddenly come to realize
> he's on the wrong side of political history and this has him stressed to the
> point that he's just about shut down mentally. As it is now he seems to
> only want to talk about his sunset bicycle. You might try to draw him out a
> bit - maybe pretend you don't have enough sense to buy a chain for your bike
> and ask his advice. I think his condition is quite fragile at the moment
> and he needs to be dealt with gently for the time being.

I am just waiting for some more disasters to happen, so I can laugh at
all the whiny people saying "How could this happen?", when it was
obvious the disaster was going to happen.

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Tom "Schadenfreude" Sherman - Earth

 

[Edward Dolan]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ed, I'm worried about Tom. I'm concerned he has suddenly come to realize
> he's on the wrong side of political history and this has him stressed to
> the
> point that he's just about shut down mentally. As it is now he seems to
> only want to talk about his sunset bicycle. You might try to draw him out
> a
> bit - maybe pretend you don't have enough sense to buy a chain for your
> bike
> and ask his advice. I think his condition is quite fragile at the moment
> and he needs to be dealt with gently for the time being.
>
> skip

Skip, I think you are right in everything you say about Mr. Tom. I will go
easy on him for awhile as there are plenty of other idiots for me to deal
with at the moment.

I am trying to figure out how to escape these other newsgroups that are now
plaguing me. I find that ARBR keeps me busy for the most part, but not
always. So I may occasionally go slumming to some of these other bike
groups. I think maybe I will keep aus.bicycle and get rid of uk.rec.cycling
as the latter group seems particularly nasty to me. bc.cycling and
nyc.bicycles are just too small, although the latter is very amusing for all
the discussion of homosexuality that takes place there. Those guys seem to
be real experts on the subject. Anyone here who thinks ARBR is off topic a
lot needs to have a look at nyc.bicycles. It is a real eye opener.

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Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

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This is troubling.

He has gone from "schadenfreude is unseemly" to schadenfreude is my middle
name in the space of a few hours.

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[Mark Leuck]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> 60 million ignorant people can easily be wrong.

Yes and they apparently all voted for John Kerry

> After all, more than ninety-nine (99) percent of bicycles sold are
> uprights, but does that make the upright design superior to the
> recumbent design? Of course not!

While I agree with that it is an opinion and still up for debate

 

[Mark Leuck]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ed, I'm worried about Tom. I'm concerned he has suddenly come to realize
> he's on the wrong side of political history and this has him stressed to
the
> point that he's just about shut down mentally. As it is now he seems to
> only want to talk about his sunset bicycle. You might try to draw him out
a
> bit - maybe pretend you don't have enough sense to buy a chain for your
bike
> and ask his advice. I think his condition is quite fragile at the moment
> and he needs to be dealt with gently for the time being.
>
> skip

This is part of the "5-D" therapy sessions he's recently taken

http://www.bocanews.com/index.php?src=news&prid=10127&category=Local News

Step 1 "Disgust"
Admit to yourself that in hindsight John Kerry was a lousy candidate

Step 2 "Denial"
Say to everyone you didn't support him by saying instead you promote 3rd
party candidates instead, register as an Independent to hide your true
feelings

Step 3 "Deflection"
Decide after months of ranting the usual leftist banter you now no longer
wish to talk about it and would instead prefer to speak only about the
current subject

Only thing he has left is

Step 4 "Defect"
Discuss and even plan on moving to a socialist country such as Canada or
France, dream of how wonderful such a life will be as he walks through a
government subsidized environment full of smiling people, Sunset Lowracer
bikes, bright sunshine and flowers

Step 5 "Do Nothing"
Find out Canada or France isn't what you dreamed they would be after finding
out about the massive tax and unemployment rate, nobody smiling, the fact
that his aged and obsolete Sunset is long gone AND it's winter

Slowly he will get back into step and begin the absurd statements

 

[Mark Leuck]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> I am just waiting for some more disasters to happen, so I can laugh at
> all the whiny people saying "How could this happen?", when it was
> obvious the disaster was going to happen.
>
> --
> Tom "Schadenfreude" Sherman - Earth

Not only are you waiting but it's what you want, for every one person who
tries for positive change there are thousands like yourself who advocate his
failure

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>> I am just waiting for some more disasters to happen, so I can laugh at
>> all the whiny people saying "How could this happen?", when it was
>> obvious the disaster was going to happen.
>>
>> --
>> Tom "Schadenfreude" Sherman - Earth
>
> Not only are you waiting but it's what you want, for every one person who
> tries for positive change there are thousands like yourself who advocate
> his
> failure

The Dems are now on the losing side of history for the first time in my
life. They can only get back into power if America fails. That is why they
are forever hoping for the worst. They do not have any solutions for
anything themselves, but all that matters to them is that they be in power.
They not only lust for peace no matter what, they also lust for power no
matter what. Like a certain person's Sunset, the Dems are also going to
sunset - and the sooner the better.

The main thing that has got to change in this country are the major media.
They remain staunchly liberal and Democratic. Yes, there are many other
sources of news and commentary now, but still the major media remain a
stumbling block.

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Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is troubling.
>
> He has gone from "schadenfreude is unseemly" to schadenfreude is my middle
> name in the space of a few hours.
>
> skip

Schadenfreude is a word that only academicians will know about. I have comes
across it many times, but I am never quite sure what it means in detail.
Here it is for all of us to ponder:

Main Entry: scha·den·freu·de
Pronunciation: 'shä-d&n-"froi-d&
Function: noun
Usage: often capitalized
Etymology: German, from Schaden damage + Freude joy
: enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

It may be that Mr. Sherman has just discovered this word and it therefore
using it repeatedly. That is a good way to cement a new word in your mind. I
believe we do not exactly have an equivalent for this German word in
English.

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Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota