John Forrest Tomlinson <
[email protected]> writes:
> On 23 Apr 2007 09:40:59 -0700, DirtRoadie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 23, 9:15 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>> On 23 Apr 2007 08:09:57 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> >In a race, one would think that the ability to see (nearly) everything
>>> >behind while also seeing in front would be an advantage - either when
>>> >attacking or defending.
>>
>>I agree. For exmple it's easy to keep an eye on someone on your wheel,
>>regardless of whether the goal is to keep them or shed them.
>>
>>> >I suspect racers don't use it because they
>>> >haven't tried it.
>>>
>>> I have. I don't use it anymore. I suspect most racers don't use it
>>> because they don't think it'll help much.
>>
>>And, I would bet, most don't think it will help much because they
>>haven't tried it.
>
> Are you suggesting that if they tried mirrors they'd use continue to
> use them? What evidence do you have for that? Have you raced bikes
> with some success (however you want to define it) with a mirror and
> found it useful? If not, how can you think that trying mirrors would
> result in racers continuing to use them?
>
> Seems to me they're doing something very logical -- looking at best
> practice in their field and using that to determine if something is
> useful. And most racers in the US have seen people with mirrors, so
> may have thought about using them but don't.
>
>
>
>
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> JT
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Racers would never use mirrors because to do so would be extremely
dangerous. If one showed up at a race the others wouldn't go near
him. Riding in close proximity and turning in unison, and squeezing
through gaps, and getting forced to the side, like into the shoulder
or over the centerline by reckless (mostly newer/young cat 4/5 racers)
requires constant manuevering, and almost instantaneous reactions.
You need to keep your eyes mostly straight forward, rely on peripheral
vision, and shift your neck into contorsions to control the threats
and evaluate your own moves. With the mirror, your field of vision is
too highly focused looking into the thing at an unnatural angle, and
you could miss a critical move from an area you're distracted from
(like right in front of you) because you're too busy trying to focus
on something else, or scanning your head around looking for the thing.
And I think most importantly, you need to move your eyeball to use the
mirror, and I think you can't move your eyeball nearly as fast as your
neck. And when you move your eyeball I think you lose some of your
peripheral vision.
Riding alone on a long ride on a shoulder with a lot of traffic is
another story. It's too much to turn around to look at every car so
riders without mirrors don't look at any of the cars, and so have to
ride 1" from the edge of the road for hours, unless you're in a quiet
area and can rely of hearing them coming. Looking behind you to check
for traffic before you dodge rough spots or potholes on the edge of
the road is tiresome. With the mirror you have a pretty good idea
already of what is there because you are constantly monitoring behind
you, so you can do a very quick **** of the neck to double check.
With the mirror you can always see the 1 in 500 kook who is planning
on driving within 1" of you, and you can move over. If they look like
they aren't going to at least drift toward the centerline, and there
are no oncoming cars, I assume they are hostile toward bicycles, and I
drift a bit out from the edge of the road in front of them to force
them toward the centerline and then shift back toward the very close
edge as they approach, thus creating a safety cushion for myself that
I otherwise wouldn't have had. I do this for my own safety and
protection from either physically disable people, like nearly blind
elderly, sleepy people, drunk people, angry people, and the insane.
And my move is subtle enough so I'm not enraging them. I just don't
see why I should be forced to test my skill and ride within
millimeters of the gravel edge, esp here in the mtns where I can slide
off the road and fall quite a ways. It's all about crash avoidance,
both for my good, and that of the drivers.
The only trouble is if you ride with the mirror on solo rides you get
in the habit of relying on the thing, and do less well without it.
But I'm really afraid of cars. One might even call me paranoid, but
I'm still breathing.
Bill Westphal