limerickman said:Rebellin's reputation is gone as a result of this.
His superlative week at the Classics in 2004 must now be in doubt as a result of this scandal as is his silver at the Olympics.
Huge story.
whiteboytrash said:There are rumors of Canc testing positive. As one cyclist tested positive twice which could only mean him ??
"An amnesty" from what? Dogged aggressiveness WRT ferreting out dopers? I say this is utterly brilliant! Pro cycling just may garner my interest again if this (popping the stars) continues.limerickman said:If Canc is in trouble, then we might as well close down this sport.
Rebellin and possibly now Canc!
Another black day, in the long list of black days with this sport.
An amnesty needs to be called in this sport.
There's quite a few others in addition to Canc who rode both the road race and the TT, if that's what you mean - Evans, Leiphiemer, Menchov, Contador, Gesink, among several others. And there's quite a few other sports where athletes competed in more than one event, of course - which is to say, doesn't mean that the multiple positive had to be a pro roadie.whiteboytrash said:There are rumors of Canc testing positive. As one cyclist tested positive twice which could only mean him ??
tonyzackery said:"An amnesty" from what? Dogged aggressiveness WRT ferreting out dopers? I say this is utterly brilliant! Pro cycling just may garner my interest again if this (popping the stars) continues.
Pro cycling needs an enema.
Then start fresh - I'm certain there are thousands of pro caliber clean racers that would love to take their rightful place in the peloton once the wheat is separated from the chaff...
Looks like we have proof that doping or some form of cheating has been pervasive in pretty much every era of cycling history. I wouldn't be so sure about Sastre being clean either. Evans, maybe.limerickman said:I hear what you're saying Tony.
But the entire, entire top echelon of the professional scene since 1998 has now been shown to have doped or have been found to have participated in a doping support mechanism.
Exceptions in the upper echelon being Cadel Evans, Carlos Sastre, perhaps.
Every other major winner/contender has been busted since 1998.
What do we do? Ban them all?
Could the sport survive with a wholesale ban of every rider?
azdroptop said:Or, let them dope. It's never going to be clean not with advancing technology and the cost to test them all.
There's pattern for testing, a rule by which athletes are chosen for testing. Winner, one of the two remaining from the podium, one more from the first five and another one from first ten (I think) and certain number of riders placed lower than tenth, also there's discreet right to test anyone who's suspicious. All these you're mentioning rode both races, but possibility of Cancellara being tested twice is greatest.Leafer said:There's quite a few others in addition to Canc who rode both the road race and the TT, if that's what you mean - Evans, Leiphiemer, Menchov, Contador, Gesink, among several others. And there's quite a few other sports where athletes competed in more than one event, of course - which is to say, doesn't mean that the multiple positive had to be a pro roadie.
azdroptop said:I don't like it much either, but we've supposedly tried to clean up sports here in the U.S. and we all know they're not clean. Normal humans don't run a 4.3 40 at 260 pounds. Just like normal humans can't race for 3 weeks straight across huge mountain passes and perform like our cycling heros do. I climb my local 26 mile high mountain and I'm toast for 3 or 4 days! granted I'm a 40 year old lowly cat 4 racer who only trains 12 to 16 hours a week.
Careful with that implication...you're speaking to someone with inside knowledge.azdroptop said:I don't like it much either, but we've supposedly tried to clean up sports here in the U.S. and we all know they're not clean. Normal humans don't run a 4.3 40 at 260 pounds. Just like normal humans can't race for 3 weeks straight across huge mountain passes and perform like our cycling heros do. I climb my local 26 mile high mountain and I'm toast for 3 or 4 days! granted I'm a 40 year old lowly cat 4 racer who only trains 12 to 16 hours a week.
DV1976 said:According to AP out the six positives there were only two medallists, one from cycling and one from track and field. So that rules out Canc since he was a medallist as well.
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