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From: "Orac" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Warning: MHA = acahf hangout
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > To any new readers or others who may not be aware of
> > this, to you who are genuinely interested in alt
> > health, please note: Anything that you may post to mha
> > is being carefully noted and monitored by your
> > "friendly" acahf rep.
>
> Really? And what is your evidence for this?
Actually, Orac, it began with a comment by you yourself.
Some scared weird little guy* was embarking on something
called a "gall bladder cleanse". ok.... I didn't know much
about them. He didn't appear to either. Then you made a
comment to the effect that while it would be unlikely to do
anything, if it did, it could possibly be harmful.
So, I passed on the message in a reply to him, saying you
had said that and that he should check it out further.
He asked for web links. The first couple that I checked out
on the web both endorsed your word of caution. Both said
that people could sometimes end up in hospital, consequent
to such "cleanses".
I posted the links, and took some details from one of them
to underscore the need to approach something like that with
a certain amount of caution.
The response from one or two posters was to immediately
attack the person who had been cited as advising to NOT rush
into the cleanse.
No discussion of what was involved in the "cleanse". No
discussion of what might be good advice for someone trying
it out. Instead, an attack on one of the authors.
And that attack was NOT a fact-based appraisal of ...
anything whatsoever. It arose from unproven allegations,
falsehoods, misrepresentations, implied suggestions of
wrongdoing, various slanderous statements, and .... rumour.
What this meant was that time which could have been spent
discussing an alt therapy went instead into witch-hunt mode
after non-existent "facts". The alt health discussion was
blatantly sabotaged.
As well, it led to action being taken across the 'Net / real
life boundary. This is not on. It is not acceptable, and I
will not be a party to such endeavours, nor will I sit back
in silence while it is occurring.
(* - To anth, "Scared Weird Little Guys" is not derogatory,
it is a friendly term: www.swlg.com.au/bio_2.htm
www.saxton.com.au/default.asp?sd8=484 )
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Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Warning: MHA = acahf hangout
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > To any new readers or others who may not be aware of
> > this, to you who are genuinely interested in alt
> > health, please note: Anything that you may post to mha
> > is being carefully noted and monitored by your
> > "friendly" acahf rep.
>
> Really? And what is your evidence for this?
Actually, Orac, it began with a comment by you yourself.
Some scared weird little guy* was embarking on something
called a "gall bladder cleanse". ok.... I didn't know much
about them. He didn't appear to either. Then you made a
comment to the effect that while it would be unlikely to do
anything, if it did, it could possibly be harmful.
So, I passed on the message in a reply to him, saying you
had said that and that he should check it out further.
He asked for web links. The first couple that I checked out
on the web both endorsed your word of caution. Both said
that people could sometimes end up in hospital, consequent
to such "cleanses".
I posted the links, and took some details from one of them
to underscore the need to approach something like that with
a certain amount of caution.
The response from one or two posters was to immediately
attack the person who had been cited as advising to NOT rush
into the cleanse.
No discussion of what was involved in the "cleanse". No
discussion of what might be good advice for someone trying
it out. Instead, an attack on one of the authors.
And that attack was NOT a fact-based appraisal of ...
anything whatsoever. It arose from unproven allegations,
falsehoods, misrepresentations, implied suggestions of
wrongdoing, various slanderous statements, and .... rumour.
What this meant was that time which could have been spent
discussing an alt therapy went instead into witch-hunt mode
after non-existent "facts". The alt health discussion was
blatantly sabotaged.
As well, it led to action being taken across the 'Net / real
life boundary. This is not on. It is not acceptable, and I
will not be a party to such endeavours, nor will I sit back
in silence while it is occurring.
(* - To anth, "Scared Weird Little Guys" is not derogatory,
it is a friendly term: www.swlg.com.au/bio_2.htm
www.saxton.com.au/default.asp?sd8=484 )
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