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"Reckless indifference"

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  1. How will they manage to write this law so as to exclude car drivers? It
    would surely be hard to argue that someone who caused death by
    "dangerous driving" had not also displayed "reckless indifference" to
    the consequences. This sounds like a lower level of offence than the
    "grosss negligence" that currently related to manslaughter. But I would
    be astonished if this new law was applied to car crashes. The odd
    cyclist will no doubt get locked up for it though, if they fail to dodge
    a pedestrian who runs in front of them.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/uk/4544238.stm

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  2. James Annan said:

    How will they manage to write this law so as to exclude car drivers?

    They won't. If a car driver or anyone deliberately kills someone it is
    murder.

    Quoted message said:

    It
    would surely be hard to argue that someone who caused death by
    "dangerous driving" had not also displayed "reckless indifference" to
    the consequences.

    If their is reasonable grounds to believe the more serious charge can be
    made to stick you can bet it *will* be applied.

    Quoted message said:

    This sounds like a lower level of offence than the
    "grosss negligence" that currently related to manslaughter.

    Quoted message said:

    But I would
    be astonished if this new law was applied to car crashes.

    If the evidence dictates a more serious offence occurred it will be
    applied. Like now, no stone is left unturned at the scenes of fatal
    "accidents", serious crime is always assumed a possibility until the
    police satisfy themselves otherwise.

    Quoted message said:

    The odd
    cyclist will no doubt get locked up for it though, if they fail to dodge
    a pedestrian who runs in front of them.

    If there is evidence to support such a case, why not?

    Can you distinguish between malice, negligence and accident?

    Another thing to consider is the outcome. If murder was the intent, and
    the perpetrator went away believing it was achieved, only later to find
    that by some miracle the victim had survived, is the offence thus less
    serious, and do the public need to be protected from a failed murderer
    to any lesser degree than from a successful one?

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