nbfman said:What are the advantages of Campy Record over Chorus, other than lighter weight? Is the performance advantage of Record noticable?
nope.DMF said:Yes (to both questions).
So what DID you notice ? Not just the labels I hope.snaps10 said:and i can tell a noticeable difference between dura ace and ultegra. is it a big enough difference to drop the cash, not in my opinion.
"nope." what? You quoted my reply to jamesdemien, then agreed with what I said (which had nothing to do with Centaur).snaps10 said:nope.
i believe centaur ...
and i can tell a noticeable difference between dura ace and ultegra. is it a big enough difference to drop the cash, not in my opinion.
Functionally they are the same. Record uses carbon derailleur cages and lighter hardware throughout the line. On the cranks, Record uses alloy hardware and Chorus uses stainless which accounts for the weight. Record also uses ti hardware in the brakes and derailleurs while Chorus uses steel or alloy. Record also uses a carbon bb shell vs alloy for Chorus. Cassette's are similar except Record uses ti for the four largest cogs, while Chorus uses all stainless. Weight is the only advantage to Record.nbfman said:What are the advantages of Campy Record over Chorus, other than lighter weight? Is the performance advantage of Record noticable?
No. Shimano deliberately engineers the lower groups to be worse that the higher ones. Campy seems to differentiate mostly on weight; the lower groups weigh more than the higher ones, but they still work just as well. Shimano's lower groups do not work as well and are not as durable as the higher ones.jamesdemien said:So do you think the same holds true for DA / Ultegra...or did I just hijack this thread...
Shows how much you know about Shimano. Ultegra is generally more durable than Dura-Ace, though heavier. Some pro teams prefer some Ultegra components as a result.Bro Deal said:No. Shimano deliberately engineers the lower groups to be worse that the higher ones. Campy seems to differentiate mostly on weight; the lower groups weigh more than the higher ones, but they still work just as well. Shimano's lower groups do not work as well and are not as durable as the higher ones.
I test rode a bike with Veloce and fully agree. The "cheapness" of its feel was surprising, especially as I was expecting much more given it was Campy.DMF said:I also find it difficult to believe that Veloce "works as well" as Record. I know professional mechanics that would disagree with you.
Phill P said:.
In a blind test most would not be able to tell Veloce from record, save the feel of cold metal shifters compared to plastic. And apparently it lasts many 1000s of kms just like any campy gear.
You'll really enjoy it. I switched from a lifetime Shimano user to campy last year and have never looked back. In fact I built my b-bike with Campy just becasue I liked it so much. My stuff is all 2004-2005. I have heard great things about the 2007 Campy. The crank-bb for one is stiffer and lighter, and the shifters are even tighter (hard to belive since my 2004 Record shifters are practically telepathic). Have fun!nbfman said:Thanks, all, for the great input. Just thought I'd share that I went with 2007 Record compact. My first choice was actually 2007 Chorus compact, but I could not find anywhere in Japan that could get it before next year. During a business trip, I found a store in Taiwan that had 2007 Record in stock with 50/34 for the front. Even though it was a bit more than I wanted to spend, I just decided to go for it because the stuff was right there. I'll have the LBS in Japan put it together for me. The price in Taiwan was better, too.
Anyway, I'm looking forward now to my first ride with Campy parts. I've only used Shimano to-date.
We use essential cookies to make this site work, and optional cookies to enhance your experience.