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[q1]> Jeff,[/q1]
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[q1]> Clipless pedals help a lot, but thet are not bombproof protection from leg suck. A hard hit or[/q1]
[q1]> pothole, rut or rock can knock a foot loose from the pedal, and then your only protection is your[/q1]
[q1]> ability to know what you are doing together with a measure of luck.[/q1]
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[q1]> Derek[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> "jeff baron" <
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[q2]> > thanks derek,[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> > is this something that riding with clipless pedals would prevent?[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> > thanks again,[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> > jeff[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> > derek wrote:[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q3]> > > Jeff,[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > Leg suck is when the SWB riders foot falls off the pedal and strikes the ground, only to be[/q3]
[q3]> > > then swept back and pinned under the frame of the[/q3]
[q1]> seat.[/q1]
[q3]> > > It can be a very nasty experience. I have had it happen off road at[/q3]
[q1]> very[/q1]
[q3]> > > very low speed on the Traverse and it merely bruised my leg somewhat.[/q3]
[q1]> At[/q1]
[q3]> > > speed, you are almost certain to break your leg or worse.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > Derek[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > "jeff baron" <
[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...[/q3]
[q3]> > > > hi derek,[/q3]
[q3]> > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > what's leg suck?[/q3]
[q3]> > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > thanks, jeff baron[/q3]
[q3]> > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > derek wrote:[/q3]
[q3]> > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > Archer,[/q3]
[q3]> > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > You are right about uprights. I do a lot of fire trail riding and[/q3]
[q1]> even some[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > singletrack on an old steel frame Schwinn with 27" tires and[/q3]
[q1]> moustache[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > handlebars. Cyclocross bikes are the same idea only pricier.[/q3]
[q3]> > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > I think you get good at what you practice with. I am able to do a[/q3]
[q1]> lot of[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > off-road things on the Traverse now that I would not even dream of[/q3]
[q1]> when I[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > first started recumbent trail riding. I had to make up my own[/q3]
[q1]> technique and[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > modify a lot of equipment. For instance, I took off the clipping[/q3]
[q1]> mechanisms[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > on one side of my Shimano pedals so I could ride alternately one[/q3]
[q1]> foot[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > clipped in and one foot not clipped in. I do a lot of foot dabbing[/q3]
[q1]> and[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > Flintstoning, so I wear Axo Anklebiters for protection.[/q3]
[q3]> > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > For steep hillclimbs it is real important to take a good line and[/q3]
[q1]> lean back[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > for traction (which is counter-intuitive). Downhills are a blast,[/q3]
[q1]> and on[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > steep, slippery slopes I put my shoes down as stabilizers and just[/q3]
[q1]> swoosh[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > along while the uprights are biffing half the time. Since the[/q3]
[q1]> Traverse is a[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > SWB, one must be constantly vigilent about leg suck situations and[/q3]
[q1]> when in[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > doubt about unprobed trail surfaces it is wise to hold down speed.[/q3]
[q1]> A[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > off-road biff on a recumbent is not a pretty thing to behold.[/q3]
[q3]> > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > I think next I would like to try MUNI type unicycle off-road.[/q3]
[q1]> Anyone here[/q1]
[q3]> > > > > been there and done that?[/q3]
[q3]> > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > Derek[/q3]
[q3]> > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > "archer" <
[email protected]> wrote in message[/q3]
[q3]> > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > Couple of points: I was referring to DF's. They definitely do not need the equipment[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > that they have been coming with, at least for most of the "off-road" (usually dirt road)[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > riding that people do. I stand by that, at least forDF's. For 'bents, well, I do ride a[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > fully suspended model, so I think you can guess where my opinion falls ;-).[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > I have not yet developed the skills for singletrack on a 'bent, and I'd love to be[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > proved wrong. You are the first person I've ever run into who says its possible. One[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > question: do most riders have the potential to develop the necessary skills, as I[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > imagine that it has got to be significantly tougher to handle singletrack on a 'bent due[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > to inherent limitations in the design.[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > > > > Archer Sully Boulder, CO Vision R54[/q3]
[q3]> > > >Jeff......I ride off road a lot when I get the chance. I have[/q3]
used two bikes with great success, the Vivo and the BikeE RX. I use to ride df frame mountain bikes
before injurys forced me off bikes for a time. There are a lot of things you can do on df frames
that you will never do on recumbents. I know because I have tried and have scares to prove it. I do
know for sure that I would never go back to df frames even if I could. Riding my bents trough
forests in Colorado and Arkansas has been a totally different experience. I see the landscape a lot
more on these bikes then I ever did on my old df's. I see things I would not have noticed and have
an overall greater experience. Am I slower.....yes. Do I care.....no! The BikeE RX was, and is, a
great trail bike. It is not a great road bike[for me] but really shines off road. Tough and super
balance. I have ridden it places I have had to put my foot down to get trough on my df's, and never
put a body part on the ground while on the RX. The Vivo is more comfortable then the BikeE for all
types of terrain. It has become my main bike, and if I had to give up my bents it would be the one I
would keep. It is as close to a do everything bike as I have found. Lay the seat back for hard
surface riding, put the seat up for off road.
[q2]> >Good luck with your search![/q2]
