On Apr 16, 2:28 pm, Ben C <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2008-04-16, Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 16, 5:25 am, David Damerell <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Quoting Ben C <[email protected]>:
>
> >> >On 2008-04-15, Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>"Letting an emergency vehicle through" is not a valid defence to a
> >> >>charge of jumping a red light when driving.
> >> >>Is this fair?
> [...]
> > (Of course, this has been the case for a long time, but it's only a
> > widespread problem now that we have red light cameras, since any
> > police officer would use their discretion (something that the motorist-
> > haters don't like) and not give a ticket in such a situation.)
>
> If you get a ticket you don't have to pay the fixed penalty, there is
> always an option to go to court. There you will get the opportunity to
> explain what happened to a magistrate who is one of your peers and
> supposed to be a reasonable person.
They have no option but to convict. Making way for an emergency
vehicle is not a defence, end of story. They can be as sympathetic as
they like, it makes no difference.
> It isn't really the job of police officers to decide who gets penalized
> and who doesn't and nor should it be. A conscientious police officer is
> basically a human camera.
How many police officers have you come across who agree with that?
Because I've come across plenty who don't, and none who do. In
effect, an officer who pulled someone over for jumping a red light to
make way for an emergency vehicle *would* decide if they got
penalised, because if they charged the driver (not that they would),
the driver would definitely get convicted (see above), assuming that
the paperwork etc was in order.
We haven't quite reached the stage where discretion is dead, I'm
pleased to say. Do you really think that cameras would be so hated if
they did the same job as a conscientious police officer? I think
you've been listening to a few too many motorist-hating trolls saying
things like "Anti-camera people just want to be able to do whatever
they like and they don't want any enforcement of any description".
The trolls would love everyone who ever got caught speeding to be
automatically punished, but luckily police officers (conscientious
ones at least) think differently.