Reptile/amphibian ID assistance?



On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:08:28 +0000, Peewiglet <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:24:39 -0000, "AndyP"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"David" <[email protected]> wrote
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>>> Lizards tend to move quicker on land than newts. Newts move - well rather
>>> like newts out of water!

>>
>>Newts don't walk at all well. They tend to kind of stagger a few steps
>>before falling over... hence the phrase "****** as a newt".
>>

> :) Are you making that up, or is it true? (i.e. the '****** as a
>newt' thingy?) Enquiring minds....



It's quite true. Newts fall over all the time. They stagger from side
to side and knock against plants.
Then they go for a curry and a skinful of Stella and throw up in
Woolies doorway.

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:25:34 +0000 (UTC), "Pennine Way"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>We should maybe set up a sub-group uk.rec.lizards.walking!


:) That sounds great to me! (I used to have a pet snake, and would
keep lizards if I didn't feel it was cruel...)
>
>This may help in your identification
>
>http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~caleb/ukkey.html


Thanks :)

They don't say anything about gait, though. Now that I know that both
lizards and newts move in the same way as the creature I saw, I think
it must have been a newt: it really didn't have the right sort of skin
for a lizard. I suppose I was wondering whether it might have been
some sort of salamander...]

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On 11 Dec 2004 04:49:53 -0800, "BeauGeste" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>This will have been a Bog Lizard - they walk like ordinary lizards most
>of the time but are shy about urinating in public so they save it up
>until they're bursting. Then they balance on the two right legs and let
>it flow out whilst toppling slowly sideways onto their two left legs -
>and then back to the right again and so on. This makes them move, as
>you said, with a very pronounced wiggle, hence their more common name,
>the Pee-wiggle-it.
>
>:)



Lol :)))

(Shhh.... don't tell everyone! I was trying to maintain a low
profile!)



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er ....... not wearing a cunning disguise then?

> >>Err, newts are amphibians and lizards are reptiles. Fairly different I'd
> >>have said!

> >
> >An amphibian is not a reptile? Always fort dey was.

>
> That's because they look just the same....
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:45:05 -0000, Fran <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] said...
>> * The air of uk.rec.walking was filled with the delicate perfume
>> * of violets, as AndyP <[email protected]> descended on
>> * a shaft of golden sunlight, and announced:
>>
>> > Frogs are very common things to find hopping about Scottish hillsides a long
>> > way from water by the way.

>>
>> I've found frogs well over 3000 feet in Scotland
>>

>Those are frogs, Jim, but not as we know them...


Lol again! 1000 brownie points for that one! :)



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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:17:38 +0000, Rooney <[email protected]> wrote:

[...]
>>> Frogs are very common things to find hopping about Scottish hillsides a long
>>> way from water by the way.

>>
>>I've found frogs well over 3000 feet in Scotland
>>
>>Jim Ford

>
>I've found a frog on a horse.


Shirley not! :)


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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:13:25 +0000, Peewiglet <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I think
>it must have been a newt: it really didn't have the right sort of skin
>for a lizard


There she goes again .... wondering what sort of jacket it was
wearing!

Judith
 
* The air of uk.rec.walking was filled with the delicate perfume
* of violets, as Peewiglet <[email protected]> descended on a shaft
* of golden sunlight, and announced:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:45:05 -0000, Fran <[email protected]> wrote:


>>> I've found frogs well over 3000 feet in Scotland
>>>

> >Those are frogs, Jim, but not as we know them...

>
> Lol again! 1000 brownie points for that one! :)


I didn't get it, but didn't like to say so at the time - I still don't!

Jim Ford
 
On 11 Dec 2004 21:20:46 GMT, Jim Ford <[email protected]>
wrote:

>* The air of uk.rec.walking was filled with the delicate perfume
>* of violets, as Peewiglet <[email protected]> descended on a shaft
>* of golden sunlight, and announced:
>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:45:05 -0000, Fran <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>>>> I've found frogs well over 3000 feet in Scotland
>>>>
>> >Those are frogs, Jim, but not as we know them...

>>
>> Lol again! 1000 brownie points for that one! :)

>
>I didn't get it, but didn't like to say so at the time - I still don't!


Not a Star Trek fan, then? :)

(Dr McCoy to Captain Kirk: "It's life, Jim, but not as we know it...")

:) (I attended the first ST convention that ever took place in
this country. I was 12. Everyone else was about 30.... but I shared a
lift with George Takai (Sulu)! :)


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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:12:20 +0000, Rooney <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:08:28 +0000, Peewiglet <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:24:39 -0000, "AndyP"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>"David" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>>> Lizards tend to move quicker on land than newts. Newts move - well rather
>>>> like newts out of water!
>>>
>>>Newts don't walk at all well. They tend to kind of stagger a few steps
>>>before falling over... hence the phrase "****** as a newt".
>>>

>> :) Are you making that up, or is it true? (i.e. the '****** as a
>>newt' thingy?) Enquiring minds....

>
>
>It's quite true. Newts fall over all the time. They stagger from side
>to side and knock against plants.


I didn't know that! :)


>Then they go for a curry and a skinful of Stella and throw up in
>Woolies doorway.


<thwack!> Tut, tut.... ;-)



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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:17:12 +0000, Judith
<[email protected]> wrote:

[...]
>>I think
>>it must have been a newt: it really didn't have the right sort of skin
>>for a lizard

>
>There she goes again .... wondering what sort of jacket it was
>wearing!


Lol :)

One has to pay attention to these things ;-)


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"Peewiglet" <[email protected]> wrote

> >Newts don't walk at all well. They tend to kind of stagger a few steps
> >before falling over... hence the phrase "****** as a newt".


> :) Are you making that up, or is it true? (i.e. the '****** as a
> newt' thingy?) Enquiring minds....


Uh... making it up I'm afraid. Where I come from everyone talks bollocks.
When I was but a small toddler my mum sat me on top of the wardrobe saying
"Go on son, jump, I'll catch you". I jumped, she stepped back, and I fell
on my head. "Let that be a lesson to you son" she smiled "Don't believe
anything people tell you".
 
* The air of uk.rec.walking was filled with the delicate perfume
* of violets, as Peewiglet <[email protected]> descended on a shaft
* of golden sunlight, and announced:

>>> >Those are frogs, Jim, but not as we know them...
>>>
>>> Lol again! 1000 brownie points for that one! :)

> >
> >I didn't get it, but didn't like to say so at the time - I still don't!

>
> Not a Star Trek fan, then? :)


Ahhh (no, I'm not a Star Trek fan)!

Jim Ford
 
Amphibians evolved into reptiles.


Newts and Salamanders belong to the same family (both are amphibians) -
there are terestrial salamanders, often mistaken for
lizards. Lizards evolved from salamanders.

Thats what I meant by basically the same animal. But I take your point!


http://www.reptilia.org/Education/Learn More/Reptilesintro.htm

"Chris Street" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:17:18 +0000 (UTC), David wrote:
>
>> Well they would do, wouldn't they? Basically the same animal!
>>

>
> Err, newts are amphibians and lizards are reptiles. Fairly different I'd
> have said!
 
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 22:28:39 -0000, "AndyP"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>Uh... making it up I'm afraid. Where I come from everyone talks bollocks.


urw?

>When I was but a small toddler my mum sat me on top of the wardrobe saying
>"Go on son, jump, I'll catch you". I jumped, she stepped back, and I fell
>on my head. "Let that be a lesson to you son" she smiled "Don't believe
>anything people tell you".
>


Ha ha ha! I like it.

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:16:44 +0000, Peewiglet <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:17:38 +0000, Rooney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>[...]
>>>> Frogs are very common things to find hopping about Scottish hillsides a long
>>>> way from water by the way.
>>>
>>>I've found frogs well over 3000 feet in Scotland
>>>
>>>Jim Ford

>>
>>I've found a frog on a horse.

>
>Shirley not! :)
>


Now you think I'm joking.
You're not a horsey person, clearly!

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Rooney <[email protected]> writes
>On 11 Dec 2004 17:42:45 GMT, Jim Ford <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>* The air of uk.rec.walking was filled with the delicate perfume
>>* of violets, as AndyP <[email protected]> descended on
>>* a shaft of golden sunlight, and announced:
>>
>>> Frogs are very common things to find hopping about Scottish hillsides a long
>>> way from water by the way.

>>
>>I've found frogs well over 3000 feet in Scotland
>>
>>Jim Ford

>
>I've found a frog on a horse.
>

I carried my bayonet in a frog when I was in the RAF.
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Rooney <[email protected]> writes
>
>>>
>>>I've found a frog on a horse.

>>
>>Shirley not! :)

>
>Now you think I'm joking.
>You're not a horsey person, clearly!
>

I suppose it's part of the harness...
I'll find out from g/f's granddaughter next time we speak. I sent her
a card with a small one inside for her horse Sovereign, saying "Merry
Xmas, but Hay! Why the long face"?
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 00:01:09 +0000, Gordon Harris
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I suppose it's part of the harness...


No.

>I'll find out from g/f's granddaughter next time we speak.


She'll laugh when you mention the harness!

> I sent her
>a card with a small one inside for her horse Sovereign, saying "Merry
>Xmas, but Hay! Why the long face"?


Good stuff!

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Rooney <[email protected]> writes
>>
>>>>
>>>>I've found a frog on a horse.
>>>
>>>Shirley not! :)

>>
>>Now you think I'm joking.
>>You're not a horsey person, clearly!


Noooo! :) I believe you: it's part of the hoof. (I had a pony when
I was a baby peewiglet :)


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