"Responsible" Mountain Biker Supports MTB Racing!

[Jonathan Bond]

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:50:08 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> .Lichens on a boulder grow on granite boulders over thousands of square feet, .the trail takes a
> tiny fraction of that. Switchbacks benefit foot traffic as .well as bicycle traffic.
>
> BS. IMBA recommends creating "twisty" trails that are much longer than they need to be, destroying
> that much more habitat.

>snip<

BS. IMBA recommends creating "twisty" trails that slow down users, making them cover less terrain
overall, and causing less erosion.

hehe, this is way too much fun. I promise everybody, I'll stop after this, I just really don't want
to write this psych paper!

Jon Bond

 

[Trekkie Dad]

Respond to the part you snipped, Terri:

> As for the "scars on Marin County hillsides from mountain bike use" et cetera, you'd have a
> difficult time proving that the "scars" were solely attributable to bicycles, considering the much
> larger numbers of hikers and equestrians there. Even so, ALL the damage caused by recreational
> overuse EVERYWHERE pales in comparison to the ecological disaster caused by the logging industry
> that has for many years financially supported your precious Marin County lifestyle.
>
> We're not buying your sh*t. I used to think that Vandeman was a unique nutcase, but you come off
> like his intellectual clone. Did the two of you occupy the same compound in the Synanon cult?
> Inquiring minds want to know!

You cannot prove that the "scars on Marin County hillsides" are solely attributable to bicycles (or
is even significant compared to that caused by hikers and equestrians).

You have not denied that the logging industry has financially supported your precious Marin County
lifestyle.

You didn't even bother to deny occupying the same compound in Synanon with Vandeman.

Care to come clean, Terri?

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[Trekkie Dad]

In article <[email protected]>, BB <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 31 Mar 2003 08:53:11 -0800, Terri Alvillar wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately it is not a "handful" of individuals; it is the majority.
>
> And yet you keep bringing up a few individuals...and making it sound like a global problem.
> There's no way your biased view would make any sense where I live.

I'll go even farther. Terri has repeated and embellished the same handful of stories over and
over--much like Vandeman's famed whipsnake incident. Odds are NONE of these events took place
recently. They probably weren't even contemporary to each other.

TD

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[Trekkie Dad]

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Terri
Alvillar) wrote:

> Trekkie Dad <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > Terri, your blatant bias is showing again.
>
>
> Bias is an opinion formed without examining the facts. My statements about mountain biking are
> based on facts. Watching the illegal Tamarancho trail builders trespass on private property every
> week for several years is a fact.

Here's the real story about Tamarancho:

http://www.boyscouts-marin.org/camps/fot.htm

It appears that the only tresspassers would be those who fail to pay the appropriate fees to the
Marin Council of the Boy Scouts of America before riding the trails.

In my search, I ran across this tidbit: When Officer Ric Alvillar, the husband of FAIRFAX PLANNING
COMMISSIONER Terri Alvillar, died, his blood alcohol level was 0.31. He was on paid leave from the
department awaiting word whether he would be fired over allegations that included insubordination
and untruthfulness. Here is where I found it:

http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:tnUuHv-SXbwC:www.marinij.com/news/st
ories/news1003195.shtml+%22Terri+Alvillar%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

TD wondering how many building projects were approved during Commissioner Alvillar's tenure

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[Peterh]

Jonathan Bond wrote:

>
>
> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>
>
> BS. IMBA recommends creating "twisty" trails that slow down users, making them cover less terrain
> overall, and causing less erosion.
>
> hehe, this is way too much fun. I promise everybody, I'll stop after this, I just really don't
> want to write this psych paper!
>
>
And with such a useful subject right at hand?

Pete H

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[Terri Alvillar]

Trekkie Dad <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Terri
> Alvillar) wrote:
>
> > Trekkie Dad <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Terri, your blatant bias is showing again.
> >
> >
> > Bias is an opinion formed without examining the facts. My statements about mountain biking are
> > based on facts. Watching the illegal Tamarancho trail builders trespass on private property
> > every week for several years is a fact.
>
> Here's the real story about Tamarancho:
>
> http://www.boyscouts-marin.org/camps/fot.htm
>
> It appears that the only tresspassers would be those who fail to pay the appropriate fees to the
> Marin Council of the Boy Scouts of America before riding the trails.
>
> In my search, I ran across this tidbit: When Officer Ric Alvillar, the husband of FAIRFAX PLANNING
> COMMISSIONER Terri Alvillar, died, his blood alcohol level was 0.31. He was on paid leave from the
> department awaiting word whether he would be fired over allegations that included insubordination
> and untruthfulness. Here is where I found it:
>
> http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:tnUuHv-SXbwC:www.marinij.com/news/st
> ories/news1003195.shtml+%22Terri+Alvillar%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
>
>
> TD wondering how many building projects were approved during Commissioner Alvillar's tenure

The trespassers used (and use) land ADJACENT to Tamarancho. I wasn't referring to the camp itself.

Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has ever had
and ever will have, watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern District of
California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights violations under color
of law against the Town of Fairfax, Police Chief Hughes, and former Sgts. James Providenza (now of
San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now of Truckee). Causes of action, Ethnic-Based Discrimination,
Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile Environment, Retaliation for Exercise of Protected Speech,
Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress, Wrongful Death, and
Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training, Supervision and Discipline.

Terri Alvillar

 

[Craig Brossman]

"Terri Alvillar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has ever
> had and ever will have, watch Case No.

Sounds loved and respected ... see below.

> C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern District of California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my
> complaint for damages for civil rights violations under color of law against the Town of Fairfax,
> Police Chief Hughes, and former Sgts. James Providenza (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now
> of Truckee). Causes of action, Ethnic-Based Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile
> Environment, Retaliation for Exercise of Protected Speech, Denial of Substantive Due Process,
> Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress, Wrongful Death, and Negligent Hiring, Retention,
> Training, Supervision and Discipline.
>
> Terri Alvillar

So nothing TD said was incorrect, just disputed. I'm sorry about the situation with your husband,
but your attacks on mountain bikers are just plain stupid. You sound just like Mr. V. and because of
that you will expose yourself to the exact same tatics you use against everyone us. As I see it you
have 2 choices, become reasonable or quit whining.
--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado

 

[Trekkie Dad]

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Terri
Alvillar) wrote:

> Trekkie Dad <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Terri Alvillar)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Trekkie Dad <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > Terri, your blatant bias is showing again.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bias is an opinion formed without examining the facts. My statements about mountain biking are
> > > based on facts. Watching the illegal Tamarancho trail builders trespass on private property
> > > every week for several years is a fact.
> >
> > Here's the real story about Tamarancho:
> >
> > http://www.boyscouts-marin.org/camps/fot.htm
> >
> > It appears that the only tresspassers would be those who fail to pay the appropriate fees to the
> > Marin Council of the Boy Scouts of America before riding the trails.
> >
> > In my search, I ran across this tidbit: When Officer Ric Alvillar, the husband of FAIRFAX
> > PLANNING COMMISSIONER Terri Alvillar, died, his blood alcohol level was 0.31. He was on paid
> > leave from the department awaiting word whether he would be fired over allegations that included
> > insubordination and untruthfulness. Here is where I found it:
> >
> > http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:tnUuHv-SXbwC:www.marinij.com/news/st
> > ories/news1003195.shtml+%22Terri+Alvillar%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
> >
> >
> > TD wondering how many building projects were approved during Commissioner Alvillar's tenure
>
>
>
> The trespassers used (and use) land ADJACENT to Tamarancho. I wasn't referring to the camp itself.

But I would venture you would be very happy if the camp itself didn't exist. All those little boy
scouts keeping the land from being devloped into a golf course or some other endeavor that would
undoubtedly increase ADJACENT property values.

And what about the phrase "illegal Tamarancho trail builders"? Which noun does the adjective
"illegal" modify--trail or builders? The trail is not illegal, and the last time I checked, it was
not illegal to BE a builder.

>
> Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has ever
> had and ever will have,

not everyone in Fairfax would agree, apparently

> watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern District of California, Judge Jeffrey
> S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights violations under color of law against the Town
> of Fairfax,

on whose planning commission Terri sits

> Police Chief Hughes, and former Sgts. James Providenza (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now
> of Truckee). Causes of action, Ethnic-Based Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile
> Environment,

ethnic discrimination in Marin County??? scandalous!

> Retaliation for Exercise of Protected Speech,

disciplined for being insubordinate and untruthful

> Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress,

drove him to drink

> Wrongful Death,

caused his fatal heart failure

> and Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training, Supervision and Discipline.

and they should have known better than to hire him in the first place.
>
> Terri Alvillar

If by some stroke of judicial idiocy Terri actually wins this frivolous lawsuit against the Town of
Fairfax (and is personally awarded with taxpayers' money), I'm sure we'll all hear about it. In the
more likely event that it's thrown out of court, I'm sure her silence will be deafening.

I have seen nothing written by Commissioner Alvillar that isn't vindictive, misleading, and
ultimately self-serving.

TD

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[Kathleen]

Terri Alvillar wrote: <snip>
>
> Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has ever
> had and ever will have, watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern District of
> California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights violations under
> color of law against the Town of Fairfax, Police Chief Hughes, and former Sgts. James Providenza
> (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now of Truckee). Causes of action, Ethnic-Based
> Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile Environment, Retaliation for Exercise of
> Protected Speech, Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress,
> Wrongful Death, and Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training, Supervision and Discipline.

Geeze. You know, sometimes bad things happen to good people. Lightning strikes, an innocent
person gets caught in the machine. But "lightning", or in this case, an unjust firing,
rarely strikes twice. Methinks that Officer Avillar must've made a habit of wearing copper
underwear and standing on hilltops during thunderstorms. I feel very sorry for Terri for the
loss of her husband, and, to a certain extent, I can understand where all that pent up rage
is coming from. Imagine doing some guy's dirty laundry for years, he goes and freakin'
*dies* on you, and you're STILL cleaning up his messes...

Kathleen

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 04:31:52 GMT, Trekkie Dad <[email protected]> wrote:

.Respond to the part you snipped, Terri: . .> As for the "scars on Marin County hillsides from
mountain bike use" et .> cetera, you'd have a difficult time proving that the "scars" were solely .>
attributable to bicycles, considering the much larger numbers of hikers .> and equestrians there.
Even so, ALL the damage caused by recreational .> overuse EVERYWHERE pales in comparison to the
ecological disaster caused .> by the logging industry that has for many years financially supported
.> your precious Marin County lifestyle. .> .> We're not buying your sh*t. I used to think that
Vandeman was a unique .> nutcase, but you come off like his intellectual clone. Did the two of .>
you occupy the same compound in the Synanon cult? Inquiring minds want .> to know! . .You cannot
prove that the "scars on Marin County hillsides" are solely .attributable to bicycles (or is even
significant compared to that caused .by hikers and equestrians).

Oh sure. Horses and hikers make narrow tracks with lots of little holes in them. Right.

And you cannot prove that you aren't as ugly as sin.
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help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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[Mike Vandeman]

On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 03:32:08 GMT, Jonathan Bond <[email protected]> wrote:

. . .Mike Vandeman wrote: .> On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:50:08 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]>
wrote: .> .> .Lichens on a boulder grow on granite boulders over thousands of square feet, .> .the
trail takes a tiny fraction of that. Switchbacks benefit foot traffic as .> .well as bicycle
traffic. .> .> BS. IMBA recommends creating "twisty" trails that are much longer than they need .>
to be, destroying that much more habitat. .
. >snip< . .BS. IMBA recommends creating "twisty" trails that slow down users, .making them cover
less terrain overall,

So you admit that mountain bikers have no self-control. They need someone else to force them to slow
down and ride less. Hogwash.

and causing less erosion. . .hehe, this is way too much fun. I promise everybody, I'll stop after
.this, I just really don't want to write this psych paper! . .Jon Bond

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to
help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Terri Alvillar]

Kathleen <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Terri Alvillar wrote: <snip>
> >
> > Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has ever
> > had and ever will have, watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern District of
> > California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights violations under
> > color of law against the Town of Fairfax, Police Chief Hughes, and former Sgts. James Providenza
> > (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now of Truckee). Causes of action, Ethnic-Based
> > Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile Environment, Retaliation for Exercise of
> > Protected Speech, Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional Infliction of Emotional
> > Distress, Wrongful Death, and Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training, Supervision and Discipline.
>
>
> Geeze. You know, sometimes bad things happen to good people. Lightning strikes, an innocent
> person gets caught in the machine. But "lightning", or in this case, an unjust firing,
> rarely strikes twice. Methinks that Officer Avillar must've made a habit of wearing copper
> underwear and standing on hilltops during thunderstorms. I feel very sorry for Terri for the
> loss of her husband, and, to a certain extent, I can understand where all that pent up rage
> is coming from. Imagine doing some guy's dirty laundry for years, he goes and freakin'
> *dies* on you, and you're STILL cleaning up his messes...
>
> Kathleen

Kathleen doesn't feel sorry for Terri or likely anyone. If she had a brain she would be interested
in a federal civil rights case with national implications that has the potential to benefit
thousands of honest, hard-working men and women who care about their communities. Terri Alvillar

 

[Pete Jones]

On 2 Apr 2003 06:48:37 -0800, [email protected] (Terri Alvillar) blathered:

>Kathleen doesn't feel sorry for Terri or likely anyone

Kathleen has demonstrated her compassion and humanity on many occasions. I've been taken to task
myself more than once.

Why didn't you respond to my pictures of erosion caused by walkers, Terri? Here's where I rode today
- http://www.btinternet.com/~peteajones/temp/lordseat/lordseat-700.jpg In that picture you can't see
(another) walkers' path up the mountain in the background, that's so eroded thay've again had to get
the diggers in.

Pete
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[Shaun Rimmer]

Terri Alvillar <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Kathleen <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Terri Alvillar wrote: <snip>
> > >
> > > Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has
> > > ever had and ever will have, watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern
> > > District of California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights
> > > violations under color of law against the Town of Fairfax, Police Chief Hughes, and former
> > > Sgts. James Providenza (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now of Truckee). Causes of
> > > action, Ethnic-Based Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile Environment,
> > > Retaliation for Exercise of Protected Speech, Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional
> > > Infliction of Emotional Distress, Wrongful Death, and Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training,
> > > Supervision and Discipline.
> >
> >
> > Geeze. You know, sometimes bad things happen to good people. Lightning strikes, an innocent
> > person gets caught in the machine. But "lightning", or in this case, an unjust firing, rarely
> > strikes twice. Methinks that Officer Avillar must've made a habit of wearing copper underwear
> > and standing on hilltops during thunderstorms. I feel very sorry for Terri for the loss of her
> > husband, and, to a certain extent, I can understand where all that pent up rage is coming from.
> > Imagine doing some guy's dirty laundry for years, he goes and freakin' *dies* on you, and you're
> > STILL cleaning up his messes...
> >
> > Kathleen
>
>
> Kathleen doesn't feel sorry for Terri or likely anyone. If she had a brain she would be interested
> in a federal civil rights case with national implications that has the potential to benefit
> thousands of honest, hard-working men and women who care about their communities. Terri Alvillar

Terri clearly never was in possession of the plot.

Shaun aRe

 

[Terri Alvillar]

Kathleen <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Terri Alvillar wrote: <snip>
> >
> > Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has ever
> > had and ever will have, watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern District of
> > California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights violations under
> > color of law against the Town of Fairfax, Police Chief Hughes, and former Sgts. James Providenza
> > (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now of Truckee). Causes of action, Ethnic-Based
> > Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile Environment, Retaliation for Exercise of
> > Protected Speech, Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional Infliction of Emotional
> > Distress, Wrongful Death, and Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training, Supervision and Discipline.
>
>
> Geeze. You know, sometimes bad things happen to good people. Lightning strikes, an innocent
> person gets caught in the machine. But "lightning", or in this case, an unjust firing,
> rarely strikes twice. Methinks that Officer Avillar must've made a habit of wearing copper
> underwear and standing on hilltops during thunderstorms. I feel very sorry for Terri for the
> loss of her husband, and, to a certain extent, I can understand where all that pent up rage
> is coming from. Imagine doing some guy's dirty laundry for years, he goes and freakin'
> *dies* on you, and you're STILL cleaning up his messes...
>
> Kathleen

I guess Kathleen just likes the kind of cop who beats up suspects in handcuffs just for fun.
Terri Alvillar

 

[Trekkie Dad]

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Terri
Alvillar) wrote:

> Kathleen <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Terri Alvillar wrote: <snip>
> > >
> > > Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has
> > > ever had and ever will have, watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern
> > > District of California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights
> > > violations under color of law against the Town of Fairfax, Police Chief Hughes, and former
> > > Sgts. James Providenza (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now of Truckee). Causes of
> > > action, Ethnic-Based Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile Environment,
> > > Retaliation for Exercise of Protected Speech, Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional
> > > Infliction of Emotional Distress, Wrongful Death, and Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training,
> > > Supervision and Discipline.
> >
> >
> > Geeze. You know, sometimes bad things happen to good people. Lightning strikes, an innocent
> > person gets caught in the machine. But "lightning", or in this case, an unjust firing,
> > rarely strikes twice. Methinks that Officer Avillar must've made a habit of wearing copper
> > underwear and standing on hilltops during thunderstorms. I feel very sorry for Terri for the
> > loss of her husband, and, to a certain extent, I can understand where all that pent up rage
> > is coming from. Imagine doing some guy's dirty laundry for years, he goes and freakin'
> > *dies* on you, and you're STILL cleaning up his messes...
> >
> > Kathleen
>
>
> Kathleen doesn't feel sorry for Terri or likely anyone. If she had a brain she would be interested
> in a federal civil rights case with national implications that has the potential to benefit
> thousands of honest, hard-working men and women who care about their communities. Terri Alvillar

Terri is now referring to herself in the third person.

Ric's death may be tragic, but Terri's lawsuit surrounding it is frivolous. It will not benefit him
or his memory, and may end up costing taxpayers (whose interests she claims to protect) a lot of
money. If this isn't self-serving, I don't know what is.

TD

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[Dave Jackson]

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Terri
Alvillar) wrote:

> Kathleen <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Terri Alvillar wrote: <snip>
> > >
> > > Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has
> > > ever had and ever will have, watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern
> > > District of California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights
> > > violations under color of law against the Town of Fairfax, Police Chief Hughes, and former
> > > Sgts. James Providenza (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now of Truckee). Causes of
> > > action, Ethnic-Based Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile Environment,
> > > Retaliation for Exercise of Protected Speech, Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional
> > > Infliction of Emotional Distress, Wrongful Death, and Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training,
> > > Supervision and Discipline.
> >
> >
> > Geeze. You know, sometimes bad things happen to good people. Lightning strikes, an innocent
> > person gets caught in the machine. But "lightning", or in this case, an unjust firing,
> > rarely strikes twice. Methinks that Officer Avillar must've made a habit of wearing copper
> > underwear and standing on hilltops during thunderstorms. I feel very sorry for Terri for the
> > loss of her husband, and, to a certain extent, I can understand where all that pent up rage
> > is coming from. Imagine doing some guy's dirty laundry for years, he goes and freakin'
> > *dies* on you, and you're STILL cleaning up his messes...
> >
> > Kathleen
>
>
> I guess Kathleen just likes the kind of cop who beats up suspects in handcuffs just for fun. Terri
> Alvillar

Please post the text where she states that.

Dave in MInnesota

 

[Bb]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:57:15 +0000 (UTC), Pete Jones wrote:

> Why didn't you respond to my pictures of erosion caused by walkers, Terri?

Being a staunch anti-MTBer requires a certain dogma, and the many realities that don't fit that
dogma must be ignored. Its a pattern you'll see in every one of them. I find it reassuring.

--
-BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

 

[P E T E F A G E]

"Terri Alvillar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| Kathleen <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
| > Terri Alvillar wrote: <snip>
| > >
| > > Regarding Ric Alvillar, the best, most respected and loved police officer that Fairfax has
| > > ever had and ever will have, watch Case No. C02 5828 in the US District Court, Northern
| > > District of California, Judge Jeffrey S. White, my complaint for damages for civil rights
| > > violations under color of law against the Town of Fairfax, Police Chief Hughes, and former
| > > Sgts. James Providenza (now of San Anselmo) and Dan Johnston (now of Truckee). Causes of
| > > action, Ethnic-Based Discrimination, Ethnic-Based Discrimination/Hostile Environment,
| > > Retaliation for Exercise of Protected Speech, Denial of Substantive Due Process, Intentional
| > > Infliction of Emotional Distress, Wrongful Death, and Negligent Hiring, Retention, Training,
| > > Supervision and Discipline.
| >
| >
| > Geeze. You know, sometimes bad things happen to good people. Lightning strikes, an innocent
| > person gets caught in the machine. But "lightning", or in this case, an unjust firing, rarely
| > strikes twice. Methinks that Officer Avillar must've made a habit of wearing copper underwear
| > and standing on hilltops during thunderstorms. I feel very sorry for Terri for the loss of her
| > husband, and, to a certain extent, I can understand where all that pent up rage is coming from.
| > Imagine doing some guy's dirty laundry for years, he goes and freakin' *dies* on you, and you're
| > STILL cleaning up his messes...
| >
| > Kathleen
|
|
| Kathleen doesn't feel sorry for Terri or likely anyone.

When were you first diagnosed with Bob Dole Disease?

--
Pete Fagerlin

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[Jeremy Widner]

I have been away from this group for 4 months now. I thought surely they would get Mike's
medications adjusted by now.

It is spring time to do something to help the envrionment. Don't waste your time ranting at us (who
quite frankly don't give a damn about your ignorant opinons). I grew up in Northern California and
have seen many of your type. You are not a member of Earth First are you? What you all need is
simple, take a bath, cut your hair, get a job, and get away from your computer. Go see some of this
world you are trying so hard to save.

As for me I am going to ride my MTB and tear up the fragile ecosystem, club a baby seal, rape a
butterfly, and spit on a hiker. After all according to you we MTB are all violent earth haters. Well
it is time to live up to the billing.

(Mike it is called satire)