Ricco admits doping !!!!!! Bigger man than Landis....
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Yes, money flows are easy to trace when it's done directly. But without a legal investigation, when it's done by different companies, when money flows are worldwide especially with banks from countries like Luxembourg, Suisse, or some paradisiac carabean islands...that become more difficult.Crankyfeet said:
For example, how much has Armstrong paid UCI for the alleged blood equipment? When? Who paid? was UCI the receiver or Mr. Verbruggen?
His ego is more important than his money... and by "cleaning" his EPO testing he could make a valuable return.Crankyfeet said:
I still don't get it pouli (the motivation of Armstrong you describe). I get earth dweller's point about wanting to make sure Landis didn't reveal all the USPS practices in a tell-all confession. But I don't understand how Landis winning his case could be used to quash the Armstrong EPO positives. I mean... it was EPO (not testosterone) ... there were six separate positives... so the odds that a chain of custody problem affected the six samples taken at different stages of the race are next to zero. You could make perhaps a connection between sloppy practices at the lab I suppose (was it the same lab?). But again... the Lance-6-EPO-positive story had been dealt with and buried. If he dug it up again it would just look like he was clutching at straws and still feeling that he had to "prove" something in his defense. Best for him to laugh it off IMO.poulidor said:
Yes it was LNDD which was involved in the 2 cases... so Landis' case could "confir" Vrijman's report... in the heart of blind American people who understand very few of doping problems... You have just to watch some of the BS said by Armstrong or Bruyneel in their interview today...Crankyfeet said:
It's very important for someone who wants or wanted to do a political career...
In that case LA has only to win... if Landis failed, he just has to say nothing, but if Landis would had won...he could have used the Landis' case in case of attack about his 6 EPO...
Even today inside cycling fans a small part of them have still doubts...
no worries polly.poulidor said:
I'd say not so much denial its more fantasy. These guys actually write books on how clean they are.
kennf said:
AFAIK no. Same as if more than one sample from the same event turns out pos. It's all thrown together as one offense. Only after he comes back to racing and he has a second offense it would be a lifetime ban.
Anyway, I think those are UCI/ProTour rules. Not sure they apply any more from next year on.
I believe Riccó has given up names of suppliers and other other intricacies of the doping system within cycling, in order to get a reduced suspension. Those details have yet to be revealed.Cobblestones said:
We shall see if in Italy there is further will to expand the chastisement of their own. I kind of doubt it. I can see them bringing to completion a punishment decision for Riccó, but not to say to retrotest Sella, Contador, DiLuca, et. al. And if they retrotest only Riccò, that would not be right in my opinion. It would be more of the same however, where you pick off one rider, every once in a while, to make it look like you are fighting doping, and so all can remain as before.
In fact it is said to be Santuccione, the same doctor banned for life. Rumors are that he still has a clientel of cyclists, who dress in disguise, sometimes as women so not to be recognized. It is also he who was involved in the oil for drugs scandal that also cost DiLuca 3 months suspension and prevented him from the worlds last year.
I don't know, it seems almost too easy to throw this guys name out. I am skeptical. But the disguising as women, that is pretty funny!
I don't know, it seems almost too easy to throw this guys name out. I am skeptical. But the disguising as women, that is pretty funny!
