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[email protected]>, stu wrote:
> jeremy said
>>Not really, can only drive it when it's available. I don't particularly mind if other people can
>>drive though we need to dramatically reduce the number of vehicles on our roads.
> but he then said
>>I can borrow the car pretty much whenever I want (except for commuting).
> you really have to make up your mind
I don't see how that contradicts.... it's not available when I commute....
>>AFAIK ski lifts aren't electric, they run purely off a diesel engine.
> but wait you haven't been to the snow since you were 15 and surely you couldn't have been to
> them all?
A fair number. At least some lifts that were brand new and located near electricity supply.
> **** they even use electricity to make snow!!!! now there is a good use for oil/cool
AFAIK they use more water (the older snow making machines didn't even use electricity). Not that
electricity has to come from fossil fuel anyway.
>>It's negligible. People don't mind a five minute walk.
> now that's just BS, why do you think they drive??????????? why would someone put up with peak hour
> and take an hour to get home if they could be home in 45 minutes by public transport?
Usually they drive when there isn't satisfactory public transport services available, not because
they have to walk to it. Five minutes is nothing. Some people will walk up to 10 minutes, but
generally not any further unless they ave captive users.
>>It's got to happen sometime
> why?
It's happened in other cities, including Perth.
>
>>Oh well, less pollution,
> nope we will still use up all the oil sooner or later
Not necessarily.
>>less road trauma
> maybe a little but l don't think there is to much road trauma during peak hour(but l could
> be wrong)
Reduced road capacity = less cars on the road = fewer collisions
>>less pedestrian hostile.....
> what's this?
Where Melbourne's urban environment is hostile to pedestrians. Try walking somewhere and you'll know
what I mean.
>(BTW there aren't any pedestrians in the tunnel to be saved by
> CM)
Oh well, I'm sure the same motorists that use it contribute to pedestrian hostility.
>>Doesn't take much real world experience to realise that you can't get anywhere by car in peak hour
>>(regardless of whether there's a CM or not). The roads are just clogged up by cars everywhere
> if that were true then where did all the cars go??
Onto the roads....
> l will say it again, people do not drive there cars to **** you off they drive because its
> faster/cheaper/convenient/comfortable
Or because they don't have a choice (btw public transport is cheaper if you consider the cost of
purchasing a car). Still they don't have to be so inconsiderate to other road users.
> have to go shopping now, l am in bayswater and have to get to chadstone, how long do you think
> that would take by PT?
If I live in Bayswater I wouldn't bother going to Chadstone. I live closer to Chadstone now than you
do and I never go there.
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