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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:59:11 -0600, "SumBuny"
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>"jake" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:10:32 -0500, nknisley <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> >To follow Block's black-and-white argument to, IMO, it's absurd conclusion, you'd have to say,
>> >for example:
>> >
>> >- Treating arthritis with anti-inflammatory drugs is inappropriate, because arthritis is not a
>> > anti-inflammatory chemical deficiency.
>> >
>> >- Treating infections with antibiotics is inappropriate, because infections aren't a antibiotic
>> > deficiency.
>> >
>> >- Treating high blood pressure with diuretics is inappropriate, since hypertension isn't caused
>> > by a diuretic deficiency.
>> >
>> >- Treating congestive heart failure with ACE inhibitors is inappropriate, since congestive heart
>> > failure isn't caused by an ACE inhibitor deficiency.
>> >
>> >- Treating pain with aspirin, acetaminophen or ibuprofen is inappropriate, since pain isn't
>> > caused by a deficiency in the chemicals in any of those medications.
>> >
>> >- Treating asthma with steroid inhalers isn't appropriate, since asthma is not a steroid
>> > deficiency.
>> >
>> this is your straw man diversion
>>
>>
>> all of the above ..with the exception of pain.. are biologically identifiable diseases..
>>
>> and pain can in many cases be traced to something concrete.
>
>Most cases it cannot,
In some cases it cannot..I am not sure where the evidence is for suggesting in "most" cases
it cannot..
>yet the dcotor does not insist the patient is not in pain...what do you do when pain cannot be
>"traced back to something concrete"?
Iam not too sure in the USA where cash..lines of credit and insurance determine the type of
treatment if any.. but in the UK..where treatment is provided on the basis of clinical need..a
common procedure is to refer the patient to a Pain Clinic.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"jake" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:10:32 -0500, nknisley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >To follow Block's black-and-white argument to, IMO, it's absurd conclusion, you'd have to say,
>> >for example:
>> >
>> >- Treating arthritis with anti-inflammatory drugs is inappropriate, because arthritis is not a
>> > anti-inflammatory chemical deficiency.
>> >
>> >- Treating infections with antibiotics is inappropriate, because infections aren't a antibiotic
>> > deficiency.
>> >
>> >- Treating high blood pressure with diuretics is inappropriate, since hypertension isn't caused
>> > by a diuretic deficiency.
>> >
>> >- Treating congestive heart failure with ACE inhibitors is inappropriate, since congestive heart
>> > failure isn't caused by an ACE inhibitor deficiency.
>> >
>> >- Treating pain with aspirin, acetaminophen or ibuprofen is inappropriate, since pain isn't
>> > caused by a deficiency in the chemicals in any of those medications.
>> >
>> >- Treating asthma with steroid inhalers isn't appropriate, since asthma is not a steroid
>> > deficiency.
>> >
>> this is your straw man diversion
>>
>>
>> all of the above ..with the exception of pain.. are biologically identifiable diseases..
>>
>> and pain can in many cases be traced to something concrete.
>
>Most cases it cannot,
In some cases it cannot..I am not sure where the evidence is for suggesting in "most" cases
it cannot..
>yet the dcotor does not insist the patient is not in pain...what do you do when pain cannot be
>"traced back to something concrete"?
Iam not too sure in the USA where cash..lines of credit and insurance determine the type of
treatment if any.. but in the UK..where treatment is provided on the basis of clinical need..a
common procedure is to refer the patient to a Pain Clinic.