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Ritalin IS A DRUG

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  1. Mark is famous for pushing drigs and making titles as if we need MORE Ritalin! Ritalin is good for
    everything. Blah.

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    Subject: Re: Ritalin Helps Beat Cancer Fatigue From: Joe Parsons [email hidden] Date:
    12/20/2003 7:10 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:11:57 -0600, "SumBuny" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [snip]

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    Another of the ingredients listed is "Choline." I looked to see what that was and found:

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    community.healthgate.comGetContent.asp


    g000469

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    ""Choline has only recently been recognized as an essential nutrient. Choline is part of the
    neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which plays a major role in the brain; for this reason, many
    studies have been designed to look at choline's role in brain function.

    Choline functions as a part of a major biochemical process in the body called methylation; choline
    acts as a methyl donor.

    In higher dosages, minor but annoying side effects may occur, such as abdominal discomfort,
    diarrhea, and nausea. Maximum safe dosages for young children, pregnant or nursing women, or those
    with severe liver or kidney disease have not been determined.""

    Hmmmm...sounds like one of her ingredients is a drug that affects the brain, and affects
    methyl....and she complains about methylphenidate? Do I see a pot calling a kettle black? She is
    pushing a drug that affects the brain...while decrying medications that do the same????

    Not to mention that "max safe dosages for young children has not been determined..." This is what
    she is insisting is safer for our kids?

    She also lists many types of "friendly bacteria", the most widely known is acidophilus...however,
    this also does not have an established safe level for kids:

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    my.webmd.com4046 1398


    s_and_Herbs_(New)

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    ""There is no information available regarding the use of acidophilus by children. Do not give any
    herbal / health supplement to a child without first talking to the child's doctor.

    Although uncommon, allergic reactions to acidophilus have been reported. Stop taking acidophilus
    and seek emergency medical attention if you experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction
    including difficulty breathing; closing of your throat; swelling of your lips, tongue, or face; or
    hives."""

    Wow...this woman insists that taking methylphenidate is dangerous, and then she offers something
    that I *know* causes hives topically, and other ingredients that have been known to produce
    anaphylactic shock?? Oh, yea, let me stop taking something that has proven useful and not
    dangerous, and give me hives and shock!!!

    Yeah, but hers is all natural, Buny--it doesn't come from one of those nasty pharmaceutical
    companies!

    Besides--what could you have against the poor woman turning a profit?

    Joe Parsons

    It cutting into the Ritalin sales???

    Jan

  2. <snip>

    Well Jan, you got me there, I cannot deny that ritalin is a drug.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  3. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Mark is famous for pushing drigs and making titles as if we need MORE


    Ritalin!

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    Ritalin is good for everything. Blah.

    So far, it has been shown to be beneficial for treating AD/HD, cancer fatigue, drug addiction, and,
    there is evidence that it may prevent certain types of breat tumors in lab animals.

    OH, and Joe Parsons and I are old friends, and we share many common interests.

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    Subject: Re: Ritalin Helps Beat Cancer Fatigue From: Joe Parsons [email hidden] Date:
    12/20/2003 7:10 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:11:57 -0600, "SumBuny" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [snip]

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    Another of the ingredients listed is "Choline." I looked to see what


    that

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    was and found:

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    community.healthgate.comGetContent.asp


    g000469

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    ""Choline has only recently been recognized as an essential nutrient. Choline is part of the
    neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which plays a


    major

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    role in the brain; for this reason, many studies have been designed to


    look

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    at choline's role in brain function.

    Choline functions as a part of a major biochemical process in the body called methylation;
    choline acts as a methyl donor.

    In higher dosages, minor but annoying side effects may occur, such as abdominal discomfort,
    diarrhea, and nausea. Maximum safe dosages for


    young

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    children, pregnant or nursing women, or those with severe liver or


    kidney

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    disease have not been determined.""

    Hmmmm...sounds like one of her ingredients is a drug that affects the


    brain,

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    and affects methyl....and she complains about methylphenidate? Do I see


    a

    Quoted message said:
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    pot calling a kettle black? She is pushing a drug that affects the brain...while decrying
    medications that do the same????

    Not to mention that "max safe dosages for young children has not been determined..." This is
    what she is insisting is safer for our kids?

    She also lists many types of "friendly bacteria", the most widely known


    is

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    acidophilus...however, this also does not have an established safe level


    for

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    kids:

    Quoted message said:

    my.webmd.com4046 1398


    s_and_Herbs_(New)

    Quoted message said:
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    ""There is no information available regarding the use of acidophilus by children. Do not give
    any herbal / health supplement to a child without first talking to the child's doctor.

    Although uncommon, allergic reactions to acidophilus have been reported. Stop taking acidophilus
    and seek emergency medical attention if you experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction
    including difficulty breathing; closing of your throat; swelling of your lips, tongue, or


    face;

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    or hives."""

    Wow...this woman insists that taking methylphenidate is dangerous, and


    then

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    she offers something that I *know* causes hives topically, and other ingredients that have been
    known to produce anaphylactic shock?? Oh,


    yea,

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    let me stop taking something that has proven useful and not dangerous,


    and

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    give me hives and shock!!!

    Yeah, but hers is all natural, Buny--it doesn't come from one of those


    nasty

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    pharmaceutical companies!

    Besides--what could you have against the poor woman turning a profit?

    Joe Parsons

    It cutting into the Ritalin sales???

    Jan

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