Road bike - cyclo-cross tires

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  1. So, I'm thinking of sticking some heavy(ier) duty tires on my creaky winter road bike so it can
    handle slightly rougher terrain.

    I had thought about cyclo-cross tires, but am not sure about clearances. It's a Cannondale CAAD3
    frame. Do you think I could fit a set of knobblier tires in there?

    Pictures (60Kb in total) here:

    http://www.jmcd.nu/bike/

    Thanks in advance,

    John
     
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    >So, I'm thinking of sticking some heavy(ier) duty tires on my creaky winter road bike so it can
    >handle slightly rougher terrain.
    >
    >I had thought about cyclo-cross tires, but am not sure about clearances. It's a Cannondale CAAD3
    >frame. Do you think I could fit a set of knobblier tires in there?
    >
    >Pictures (60Kb in total) here:
    >
    >http://www.jmcd.nu/bike/
    >

    _ What size are your current tires? If you could find a cyclocross tire that size it might fit, but
    don't go in the mud. Cyclocross tires kind of suck on the road. You might be better off with just a
    beefier and bigger road tire. Knobs help in the mud, air in the tubes helps with rough surfaces.

    _ Booker C. Bense

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  3. Jeff Wills

    Jeff Wills Guest

    John McDowall <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > So, I'm thinking of sticking some heavy(ier) duty tires on my creaky winter road bike so it can
    > handle slightly rougher terrain.
    >
    > I had thought about cyclo-cross tires, but am not sure about clearances. It's a Cannondale CAAD3
    > frame. Do you think I could fit a set of knobblier tires in there?
    >
    > Pictures (60Kb in total) here:
    >
    > http://www.jmcd.nu/bike/
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    >
    > John

    You'd probably be better off fitting *fatter* tires, as opposed to *knobby* tires. A larger air
    chamber is what you want to cushion the bumps and blows of rough terrain.

    At a guess, you've got 700 x 25C tires mounted now. You *might* be able to fit 700 x 32C tires-
    which is plenty for most hard surfaces. Whether or not you can use 700 x 32C tires can't be answered
    from your pictures- there's also the matter of clearance at the chainstays. You may be stuck with
    700 x 28C tires.

    Someone who actually has a CAAD3 frame will probably have better answers than me. :)

    Jeff
     
  4. A Muzi

    A Muzi Guest

    John McDowall wrote:

    > So, I'm thinking of sticking some heavy(ier) duty tires on my creaky winter road bike so it can
    > handle slightly rougher terrain.
    >
    > I had thought about cyclo-cross tires, but am not sure about clearances. It's a Cannondale CAAD3
    > frame. Do you think I could fit a set of knobblier tires in there?
    >
    > Pictures (60Kb in total) here:
    >
    > http://www.jmcd.nu/bike/
    >
    Ideally you might ride over to an LBS or visit a friend with said tires and slip a cross-tired wheel
    in your bike for a moment.

    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
     
  5. Bruce Graham

    Bruce Graham Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    > John McDowall <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > So, I'm thinking of sticking some heavy(ier) duty tires on my creaky winter road bike so it can
    > > handle slightly rougher terrain.
    > >
    > > I had thought about cyclo-cross tires, but am not sure about clearances. It's a Cannondale CAAD3
    > > frame. Do you think I could fit a set of knobblier tires in there?
    > >
    > > Pictures (60Kb in total) here:
    > >
    > > http://www.jmcd.nu/bike/
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance,
    > >
    > > John
    >
    > You'd probably be better off fitting *fatter* tires, as opposed to *knobby* tires. A larger air
    > chamber is what you want to cushion the bumps and blows of rough terrain.
    >
    > At a guess, you've got 700 x 25C tires mounted now. You *might* be able to fit 700 x 32C tires-
    > which is plenty for most hard surfaces. Whether or not you can use 700 x 32C tires can't be
    > answered from your pictures- there's also the matter of clearance at the chainstays. You may be
    > stuck with 700 x 28C tires.
    >
    > Someone who actually has a CAAD3 frame will probably have better answers than me. :)
    >
    > Jeff
    >
    My tough old Conti Top Touring 28's are 24mm max width and rise 22mm from the rim, mounted on Mavic
    MA2 rims which are about 20mm rim width (brake surface to brake surface). They were probably 23mm
    high when new
    - they have a beefy tread. You can get them in 32's if you have a bit more room than that and they
    will roll over coarse gravel well. The 28's are OK too.

    Bruce
     
  6. crazy6r54

    crazy6r54 Guest

    Clearance that everyone forgets to also check is derailleur to tire.

    I MTB 2004
     
  7. Zilla

    Zilla Guest

    John McDowall wrote:
    > So, I'm thinking of sticking some heavy(ier) duty tires on my creaky winter road bike so it can
    > handle slightly rougher terrain.
    >
    > I had thought about cyclo-cross tires, but am not sure about clearances. It's a Cannondale CAAD3
    > frame. Do you think I could fit a set of knobblier tires in there?
    >
    > Pictures (60Kb in total) here:
    >
    > http://www.jmcd.nu/bike/
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    >
    > John
    >

    Along the same lines, are there any 700x23 cross tires out there?

    -Zilla
     
  8. Zilla <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Along the same lines, are there any 700x23 cross tires out there?

    What would be the point? If you're riding over rough terrain, small tires are not the way to go.
    Bigger tires are better than extra knobs anyway unless you're riding on loose surfaces.

    There are some old school Euro cross tires in 700x27 like the Vittoria Master and Tigre, and the
    Ritchey semi-slick 700x30 measured about 26mm wide for me. That's about the smallest useful
    cross tire.
     
  9. > There are some old school Euro cross tires in 700x27 like the Vittoria Master and Tigre, and the
    > Ritchey semi-slick 700x30 measured about 26mm wide for me. That's about the smallest useful
    > cross tire.
    >
    I recommend the Tufo Elite Diamond LPS 28 mm. http://www.tufo.com/index.php?lg=en&mn=4&id=5 They
    will fit in most road frames and have excellent handling on moderate winter conditions and rough
    roads. It does not have big knobs that increase rolling resistance on paved roads, but a diamond
    pattern and a special rubber mixture that gives the good grip. It is specially puncture resistant. I
    even used them in two mountain races in Norway (mostly fire roads, gravel roads and tracks, I do not
    have a mountain bike so I use a hybrid with Tufo tires instead). Like all the Tufo Elite models they
    are very expensive, though, typically between 70 to 79 $. Tufo deliver them in both tubular and
    clincher versions. I use clincher, but by mistake I also ordered four tubular tires. I sell them for
    60$ each plus shipping.

    Erik (to reply replace "com" with "no")
     
  10. Zilla

    Zilla Guest

    Erik Lindeberg wrote:
    >>There are some old school Euro cross tires in 700x27 like the Vittoria Master and Tigre, and the
    >>Ritchey semi-slick 700x30 measured about 26mm wide for me. That's about the smallest useful
    >>cross tire.
    >>
    >
    > I recommend the Tufo Elite Diamond LPS 28 mm. http://www.tufo.com/index.php?lg=en&mn=4&id=5 They
    > will fit in most road frames and have excellent handling on moderate winter conditions and rough
    > roads. It does not have big knobs that increase rolling resistance on paved roads, but a diamond
    > pattern and a special rubber mixture that gives the good grip. It is specially puncture resistant.
    > I even used them in two mountain races in Norway (mostly fire roads, gravel roads and tracks, I do
    > not have a mountain bike so I use a hybrid with Tufo tires instead). Like all the Tufo Elite
    > models they are very expensive, though, typically between 70 to 79 $. Tufo deliver them in both
    > tubular and clincher versions. I use clincher, but by mistake I also ordered four tubular tires. I
    > sell them for 60$ each plus shipping.
    >
    > Erik (to reply replace "com" with "no")
    >
    >

    Thanks! Terrain will be mostly fire roads with almost sand-like pebbles so it's not too rough. I
    will consider "your" tires as well...

    -Zilla
     
  11. Thanks for all the responses guys, very helpful!
     
  12. Dvt

    Dvt Guest

    [email protected] wrote:
    > Clearance that everyone forgets to also check is derailleur to tire.

    Front derailer? I've never seen that one before.

    dvt
     
  13. A Muzi

    A Muzi Guest

    > [email protected] wrote:
    Clearance that everyone forgets to also check is
    >>derailleur to tire.

    dvt wrote:
    > Front derailer? I've never seen that one before.
    >
    It's a mountain bike thing. Especially on XMart bikes.

    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
     
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