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Road Rage & Cyclists.. never a good mix

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  1. Its lengthy but worth the read for any one of us who have to deal with
    this daily issue..

    -----Original Message----- From: [email hidden]
    [[email hidden]] Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2004 1:58
    PM

    <email addresses removed>

    Subject: Action - road rage an cyclists

    Road rage against cyclists (or at the very least a misunderstanding and
    lack of knowledge of the rights of cyclists on roads), is an area of
    concern for anyone who rides. Not only for the sake of safety, but also
    for the sake of reducing the stress of riding, if all road users were
    aware of cyclists, and their status as legitimate road users.

    The email below, initiated by Mark Higginbotham of the Victorian Police
    Prosecutions Division, identifies an opportunity for any road users, and
    in the above context specifically cyclist, to confirm that this is an
    important issue, and that some changes and actions are required.

    Please read the email below, respond to Sand Cook (Executive officer of
    the review), and indicate your opinion on any safety issues related to
    cyclist,In particular is the issue of minimum distances that vehicles
    should have to adhere to when passing cyclists. Many of you would have
    been in a situation of not only being hit, but having the whit's scared
    out of you by a vehicle passing too close. These close calls do not
    help to encourage cycling, nor make it as pleasant an experience that
    it could be.

    Please send in any submission OR at the very least forward this email to
    AT LEAST 3 other cyclists you know so that they may have the chance to
    contribute, and get a few stories off their chests.

    Go for it, let the Govt know that it is an issue, and we need some
    changes. Cheers,

    Paul

    Subject: From Mark Higginbotham

    There is a parliamentary committee looking into law reform that may
    reduce road rage. This is an opportunity to improve the status of
    cyclists on Victorian roads. I strongly suggest that you all make a
    submission, urgently, to Sandy Cook, Executive Officer of the Drugs and
    Crime Prevention Committee. There is a committee meeting being held on
    the 21/6 and the discussion paper has already been published.

    The agenda of this committee will be more difficult to expand very soon.
    Email: [email hidden]

    I spoke with her this morning and she has had 5 submissions statewide.
    This will suggest to the government that it is a non-issue and nothing
    will happen.

    In most of the states of the US and in most of the countries of Europe
    there are prescribed minimum distances that must exist when a motor
    vehicle passes a bicycle.

    My experience is that impatient drivers who resent the presence of
    bicycles on roads take chances by forcing their way past when there is
    insufficient space. Please tap out an email and send it to Sandy. The
    committee wants some sense of the measure of the problem of road rage
    and also to design strategies to reduce it. At the very least let her
    know, should you agree,that cyclists are commonly the victims of road
    rage that is an expression of the lack of status given to them by many
    motorists.

    Forward this to anyone you think has something to add. Mark S
    Higginbotham Leading Senior Constable Prosecutions Division Research and
    Training Unit Level 2 456 Lonsdale Street Melbourne 3000 Phone 86283280
    Fax 96707563

    --

  2. think cfsmtb covered this one in the thread:

    http://www.cyclingforums.com/t129895.html

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  3. "coowoowoo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Its lengthy but worth the read for any one of us who have to deal with
    this daily issue..

    -----Original Message----- From: [email hidden]
    [[email hidden]] Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2004 1:58
    PM

    <email addresses removed>

    Subject: Action - road rage an cyclists

    Road rage against cyclists (or at the very least a misunderstanding and
    lack of knowledge of the rights of cyclists on roads), is an area of
    concern for anyone who rides. Not only for the sake of safety, but also
    for the sake of reducing the stress of riding, if all road users were
    aware of cyclists, and their status as legitimate road users.

    The email below, initiated by Mark Higginbotham of the Victorian Police
    Prosecutions Division, identifies an opportunity for any road users, and
    in the above context specifically cyclist, to confirm that this is an
    important issue, and that some changes and actions are required.

    Please read the email below, respond to Sand Cook (Executive officer of
    the review), and indicate your opinion on any safety issues related to
    cyclist,In particular is the issue of minimum distances that vehicles
    should have to adhere to when passing cyclists. Many of you would have
    been in a situation of not only being hit, but having the whit's scared
    out of you by a vehicle passing too close. These close calls do not
    help to encourage cycling, nor make it as pleasant an experience that
    it could be.

    Please send in any submission OR at the very least forward this email to
    AT LEAST 3 other cyclists you know so that they may have the chance to
    contribute, and get a few stories off their chests.

    Go for it, let the Govt know that it is an issue, and we need some
    changes. Cheers,

    Paul

    Subject: From Mark Higginbotham

    There is a parliamentary committee looking into law reform that may
    reduce road rage. This is an opportunity to improve the status of
    cyclists on Victorian roads. I strongly suggest that you all make a
    submission, urgently, to Sandy Cook, Executive Officer of the Drugs and
    Crime Prevention Committee. There is a committee meeting being held on
    the 21/6 and the discussion paper has already been published.

    The agenda of this committee will be more difficult to expand very soon.
    Email: [email hidden]

    I spoke with her this morning and she has had 5 submissions statewide.
    This will suggest to the government that it is a non-issue and nothing
    will happen.

    In most of the states of the US and in most of the countries of Europe
    there are prescribed minimum distances that must exist when a motor
    vehicle passes a bicycle.

    My experience is that impatient drivers who resent the presence of
    bicycles on roads take chances by forcing their way past when there is
    insufficient space. Please tap out an email and send it to Sandy. The
    committee wants some sense of the measure of the problem of road rage
    and also to design strategies to reduce it. At the very least let her
    know, should you agree,that cyclists are commonly the victims of road
    rage that is an expression of the lack of status given to them by many
    motorists.

    Forward this to anyone you think has something to add. Mark S
    Higginbotham Leading Senior Constable Prosecutions Division Research and
    Training Unit Level 2 456 Lonsdale Street Melbourne 3000 Phone 86283280
    Fax 96707563

    - and indicate your opinion on any safety issues related to
    cyclist,In particular is the issue of minimum distances that vehicles
    should have to adhere to when passing cyclists-

    I had always understood the law to be that if a motorist overtakes a


    cyclist or motorbike that a distance of at least 1 meter clearance is to be
    given.(i don't know the exact wording).
    Anyway, as a cyclist myself, whether or not i'm driving my car or bus, I
    always endeavour to give at least a metre clearance as even then, there is
    not much room for errors.
    The problem with today's society is that everyone leaves things till the
    last minute because they beleive that the modern motorcar can get them there
    on time with their very powerful motors(lets face it, most 6 cyl cars like
    ford and holden have the horsepower of the supercars of the 70's, not to
    mention better brakes.tyres etc). Then there is a rush to get to the office
    by 8.50am by trying to push your way into the trafffic which i beleive is
    one of the main reasons for the 4WD cars (bullies).

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