Road Rage Moron

[David Springthrope]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23664131-5016213,00.html

Aussie cyclists in hit-and-run
From staff reporters
May 08, 2008

AUSTRALIAN cyclists Kate Nichols and Ben Kersten were among about 50 riders
involved in a hit-and-run crash in the Sydney suburb of Mascot.

The group of professional cyclists were riding south on Southern Cross Drive,
just south of Dacey Avenue, witnesses told Fairfax media.

A driver, agitated with being held up, accelerated in front of the pack and then
slammed on his brakes, witnesses said.

Nichols was one of five national team members injured in the 2005 road crash in
Germany in which team member Amy Gillett was killed.

Nichols said the cyclists were going at a good clip, two abreast as they are
required to, when a car pushed them towards the edge of the road.

"The car came past us squishing us into our lane," Nichols said in a statement
issued through Cycling Australia.

"And then the guy went in front of us and slammed on his brakes. He was just a
total moron.

"A heap (of us) came off, but everyone just had superficial wounds and we were
all treated there."

It is understood an off-duty policeman was in a car following the group and the
cyclists took the number plate of the car before it sped off.

There were no serious injuries but most cyclists suffered cuts, bruises, sprains
and possible fractures.

"A lot of people had superficial cuts and grazes, and there'll be a bit of
checking for broken bones and the like, but at this stage it looks like we are
very, very lucky that no one was seriously injured," Cycling Australia
spokeswoman Gennie Sheer said.

<some more snipped>

 

[verb]

"David Springthrope" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23664131-5016213,00.html
>
> Aussie cyclists in hit-and-run
> From staff reporters
> May 08, 2008
>
> AUSTRALIAN cyclists Kate Nichols and Ben Kersten were among about 50
> riders
> involved in a hit-and-run crash in the Sydney suburb of Mascot.
>
> The group of professional cyclists were riding south on Southern Cross
> Drive,
> just south of Dacey Avenue, witnesses told Fairfax media.
>
> A driver, agitated with being held up, accelerated in front of the pack
> and then
> slammed on his brakes, witnesses said.
>
> Nichols was one of five national team members injured in the 2005 road
> crash in
> Germany in which team member Amy Gillett was killed.
>
> Nichols said the cyclists were going at a good clip, two abreast as they
> are
> required to, when a car pushed them towards the edge of the road.
>
> "The car came past us squishing us into our lane," Nichols said in a
> statement
> issued through Cycling Australia.
>
> "And then the guy went in front of us and slammed on his brakes. He was
> just a
> total moron.
>
> "A heap (of us) came off, but everyone just had superficial wounds and we
> were
> all treated there."
>
> It is understood an off-duty policeman was in a car following the group
> and the
> cyclists took the number plate of the car before it sped off.
>
> There were no serious injuries but most cyclists suffered cuts, bruises,
> sprains
> and possible fractures.
>
> "A lot of people had superficial cuts and grazes, and there'll be a bit of
> checking for broken bones and the like, but at this stage it looks like we
> are
> very, very lucky that no one was seriously injured," Cycling Australia
> spokeswoman Gennie Sheer said.
>
> <some more snipped>


it doesnt matter what 'morality' or christianity' says,

scum who exact violence upon others should be removed from the gene pool

(ie castrated and executed)

 

[zog]

David Springthrope wrote:
> http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23664131-5016213,00.html
>
> Aussie cyclists in hit-and-run
> From staff reporters
> May 08, 2008
>
> AUSTRALIAN cyclists Kate Nichols and Ben Kersten were among about 50 riders
> involved in a hit-and-run crash in the Sydney suburb of Mascot.

about $30K worth of damage, I hope they stick the stupid ******* in gaol
and sue him for every last cent.

 

[David Springthrope]

On Thu, 08 May 2008 12:35:56 +1000, zog <[email protected]> wrote:

>David Springthrope wrote:
>> http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23664131-5016213,00.html
>>
>> Aussie cyclists in hit-and-run
>> From staff reporters
>> May 08, 2008
>>
>> AUSTRALIAN cyclists Kate Nichols and Ben Kersten were among about 50 riders
>> involved in a hit-and-run crash in the Sydney suburb of Mascot.
>
>about $30K worth of damage, I hope they stick the stupid ******* in gaol
>and sue him for every last cent.

And use his dead **** for a bicycle rack.

 

[Yeah Right]

On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:21:24 +0800, verb <[email protected]> wrote:


>
> it doesnt matter what 'morality' or christianity' says,
>
> scum who exact violence upon others should be removed from the gene pool
>
> (ie castrated and executed)
>

Um, isn't castrating and executing exacting violence upon others?

But yeah, the moron should be severely punished in the courts.

I read elsewhere that a semi-trailer right behind the group jacknifed, and
almost wiped them out, and cars behind the semi had to swerve.

Good thing they got the number plates.

 

[verb]

"Yeah Right" <[email protected]> wrote in message
newsp.uate6uyiii53mm@owner-7982cc89d...
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:21:24 +0800, verb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> it doesnt matter what 'morality' or christianity' says,
>>
>> scum who exact violence upon others should be removed from the gene pool
>>
>> (ie castrated and executed)
>>
>
> Um, isn't castrating and executing exacting violence upon others?
>


violent poeple win when GOOD NONVIOLENT PEOPLE DONT
USE PHYSICAL FORCE.

i understand that is a paradox, but that is the way that it is.

> But yeah, the moron should be severely punished in the courts.

violent criminals should be castrated. there are already too many people in
this world.
breeding is NOT a right. violent people should be the first ones removed
from the gene pool.
immigrant criminals should be DEPORTED.
(note the pricks that harrass us roadies are usually 'aussies' - bogans -
who ride in
falcadoors - or some vulgar tasteless 'HOTROD' - cultural scum)

>
> I read elsewhere that a semi-trailer right behind the group jacknifed, and
> almost wiped them out, and cars behind the semi had to swerve.
>
> Good thing they got the number plates.

if i was in control, roadies would be PROTECTED.

 

[20cents]

In article <[email protected]>,
"verb" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Yeah Right" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> newsp.uate6uyiii53mm@owner-7982cc89d...
> > On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:21:24 +0800, verb <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> it doesnt matter what 'morality' or christianity' says,
> >>
> >> scum who exact violence upon others should be removed from the gene pool
> >>
> >> (ie castrated and executed)
> >>
> >
> > Um, isn't castrating and executing exacting violence upon others?
> >
>
>
> violent poeple win when GOOD NONVIOLENT PEOPLE DONT
> USE PHYSICAL FORCE.

Well, that's a load of rubbish. Iraq is a classic example of your
solution and my opinion is that it has not worked there (or anywhere
else it has been tried). That is why we have a police service: to uphold
the law.

>
> i understand that is a paradox, but that is the way that it is.

Not a paradox, just wrong.

>
> > But yeah, the moron should be severely punished in the courts.
>
> violent criminals should be castrated. there are already too many people in
> this world.

Interesting logic.

> breeding is NOT a right. violent people should be the first ones removed
> from the gene pool.

I can think of several other 'classes' that would have an equal claim
for 'first removal' status but go to a totalitarian regime if that is
the society you want.

> immigrant criminals should be DEPORTED.

A black and white solution. Great thinking Einstein.

> (note the pricks that harrass us roadies are usually 'aussies' - bogans -
> who ride in falcadoors - or some vulgar tasteless 'HOTROD' - cultural scum)

Bring out the tar bucket. Time to paint some Holden and Ford owners.

>
> >
> > I read elsewhere that a semi-trailer right behind the group jacknifed, and
> > almost wiped them out, and cars behind the semi had to swerve.
> >
> > Good thing they got the number plates.
>
> if i was in control, roadies would be PROTECTED.

If you were in control they would need to be protected.

This nutter spoiled what was otherwise a serious topic.

regards,
20cents

 

[G-S]

verb wrote:
>
> violent poeple win when GOOD NONVIOLENT PEOPLE DONT
> USE PHYSICAL FORCE.
>
> i understand that is a paradox, but that is the way that it is.
>

It isn't that physical force doesn't need to be used, rather it is that
the minimum needed force should be used be 'goof nonviolent people'.

Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though!


G-S

 

[AndrewJ]

On May 8, 7:45 pm, G-S <[email protected]> wrote:
> verb wrote:
>
> > violent poeple win when GOOD NONVIOLENT PEOPLE DONT
> > USE PHYSICAL FORCE.
>
> > i understand that is a paradox, but that is the way that it is.
>
> It isn't that physical force doesn't need to be used, rather it is that
> the minimum needed force should be used be 'goof nonviolent people'.
>
> Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though!
>
> G-S


Not to joke about it, but I feel for the victims of this assault.
Let's hope
that the appropriate charges are made here (eg. dangerous driving,
assault with
a weapon with intention to kill).

Australia is a very civilised country - let's hope that it stays that
way. I don't
think the community tolerates the use of a car as a weapon, and that
the
penalty imposed reflects that.

In a less civilised country, there is no doubt that he would not see
the sun
rise tomorrow. It's a very simple process to locate somebody once you
have
a registration number.

 

[cfsmtb]

It's a very simple process to locate somebody once you
have a registration number.

All a rego number tells the authorities is who the registered owner is. Doesn't inform who was actually driving the vehicle or where they are now. A rego number also doesn't predict how much the alleged driver will try to get their legal representation to get them off the charges once the case slowly gets to court or what the verdict outcome eventually is etc ...

 

[Rob.]

cfsmtb wrote:

> AndrewJ Wrote:
>
>>It's a very simple process to locate somebody once you
>>have a registration number.
>
>
> All a rego number tells the authorities is who the registered owner is.
> Doesn't inform who was actually driving the vehicle or where they are
> now. A rego number also doesn't predict how much the alleged driver will
> try to get their legal representation to get them off the charges once
> the case slowly gets to court or what the verdict outcome eventually is
> etc ...
>
>

The registered owner of the car is responsible for the manor which the
vehicle was used.

If he was not the offending driver then he has to nominate the
responsible party or he accepts responsibility for the offence.

Marcus Einfield case comes to mind.

 

[terryc]

On Thu, 08 May 2008 19:45:55 +1000, G-S wrote:


> Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though!

Oh, I don't know, a sharp knife and a quick cut and it will be over before
they realise. Fairly effortless if you know what you are doing and get
the cut in as soon as they hid the ground and before they start kicking.

I'll skip the barbie afterwards though.

 

[David Springthrope]

On Thu, 08 May 2008 23:48:31 +1000, G-S <[email protected]> wrote:

>> It isn't that physical force doesn't need to be used, rather it is that
>> the minimum needed force should be used be 'goof nonviolent people'.
>>
>> Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though!
>>
>>
>> G-S
>
>That should of course have been 'good' not 'goof'.

That's okay, we understood - we all make goofs now and again....

 

[cfsmtb]

On Thu, 08 May 2008 19:45:55 +1000, G-S wrote:


> Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though!

Oh, I don't know, a sharp knife and a quick cut and it will be over before
they realise. Fairly effortless if you know what you are doing and get
the cut in as soon as they hid the ground and before they start kicking.

I'll skip the barbie afterwards though.

That's very disturbing, yet somewhat educational at the same time.

 

[cfsmtb]

In the complete absence of anything really sensible in the media regarding yesterdays 'road rage' incident in Sydney, Alan Odds from the newly-formed National Roads and Cyclists Association has issued this press release:

NRCA: Evans inflames an already hostile situation
http://www.mynrca.com.au/road_rage.pdf

 

[Patrick Turner]

cfsmtb wrote:
>
> In the complete absence of anything really sensible in the media
> regarding yesterdays 'road rage' incident in Sydney, Alan Odds from the
> newly-formed National Roads and Cyclists Association has issued this
> press release:
>
> NRCA: Evans inflames an already hostile situation
> http://www.mynrca.com.au/road_rage.pdf
>
> --
> cfsmtb

In recent years Australians have got up to purchasing 1 million bikes
per annum.

Some well meaning polititians have tried to get on the clean green
message
to encorage folks to ride their bikes. Others have tried to tell us
there's no place for cyclists, but the laws are set, and cyclists have
rights.
Both cyclists and motorists have a duty of care, often forgotten in the
rush to and from work.

But the vast majority of motorists in cities don't give a hoot about
greenhouse,
being green, and they hate cyclists. Many people become utter demons
when they are behind a wheel,
and hate anyone getting in their way.
As fast as roads are improved, car usage has increased faster, with ever
less room for cyclists,
and all the more angst and rage going on.
It looks set to get worse and worse while mainly young men
defy the trends and ride on busy roads.

Its so very difficult to retro fit a city like Sydney with decent cycle
paths that are
nicer to ride on than roads are.

I'm happy to live in Canberra with its many miles of cycle paths and
bike lanes.
I wouldn't like being in Sydney again.

I came to Canberra in 1973, and instead of the usual 2 hours on a BMW
motorcycle
to and from work each day in Sydney back then, I averaged 20 minutes a
day in Canberra.

I'm spoiled. Never would I work in Sydney and travel maybe 3 hours a day
in a car.
Certainly not with petrol at $1.50 a litre.

I voted with my feet in '73, and have never regretted it.

If yer don't like the big city and all its misery, move out.

Everyone in a big city is like an alienated rat in a running cage.

Patrick Turner.

 

[Duncan]

On May 9, 12:17 am, cfsmtb <cfsmtb.393...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> In the complete absence of anything really sensible in the media
> regarding yesterdays 'road rage' incident in Sydney, Alan Odds from the
> newly-formed National Roads and Cyclists Association has issued this
> press release:
>
> NRCA: Evans inflames an already hostile situationhttp://www.mynrca.com.au/road_rage.pdf
>
> --
> cfsmtb

Well there's something sensible in the media now. Odds has been
published in the SMH.

http://tinyurl.com/5yq5pa

"The president of the National Roads and Cyclists Association, Alan
Odds, said cyclists had every right to be on the road but "they still
get abuse hurled at them, stuff thrown at them - female cyclists get
wolf-whistled".

"So what if a cyclist takes 30 seconds off your journey to work?" he
said. "For some reason, lycra to motorists is like a red rag to a
bull."



btw: I find it astounding that the police have taken more than a day
to talk to this lunatic. They have the rego, why didn't they scoot
around there asap and have a quiet word?

duncan

 

[EuanB]

btw: I find it astounding that the police have taken more than a day
to talk to this lunatic. They have the rego, why didn't they scoot
around there asap and have a quiet word?

All registration tells the police is who owns the car and the residential address.

It doesn't tell the police where that person happens to be at a point in time.

Further the incident has already happened, priority for police resources would porbably have been given to inicidents where the police can make a difference, leaving after the fact policing till quieter times, which is sensible.

 

[Rory Williams]

All registration tells the police is who owns the car and the residential address.

It doesn't tell the police where that person happens to be at a point in time.

Further the incident has already happened, priority for police resources would porbably have been given to inicidents where the police can make a difference, leaving after the fact policing till quieter times, which is sensible.

There was a fairly extensive story about it on PM on ABC radio national yesterday afternoon.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2239488.htm

My impression from the story was that Kevin Nichols took the rego number and also spoke to the driver of the car.

This makes me think that there should be a good chance of identifying the actual driver - particularly if it was the registered owner.

RoryWtranscript]transcript[/URL]

 

[TimC]

On 2008-05-09, EuanB (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> Duncan Wrote:
>> btw: I find it astounding that the police have taken more than a day
>> to talk to this lunatic. They have the rego, why didn't they scoot
>> around there asap and have a quiet word?
> All registration tells the police is who owns the car and the
> residential address.
>
> It doesn't tell the police where that person happens to be at a point
> in time.
>
> Further the incident has already happened, priority for police
> resources would porbably have been given to inicidents where the police
> can make a difference, leaving after the fact policing till quieter
> times, which is sensible.

Except that it has been reported that this guy is already known to
police, which means he is already suspected of having offended in the
past, and will offend again. As such, I would have guessed he would
be one of their highest priority cases. Because he knows he is known
(and a description of him has been plastered all over the newspapers),
you can bet he's gone "missing". So we just have to wait for him to
turn up in Kalgoolie...

And for his sake, he better be hoping someone isn't going to rip out
his gonads through his throat, when he is found.

--
TimC
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conditions that make it fail. -- Jerry Ogdin