I've been using White Lightning on my chain, but got annoyed at the buildup on the cassette and on the chain, etc. So when I was at the bikeshop tonight, they had Rock-N-Roll lube there. Talked to the mechanics and they swear by it, so I picked up some of the Gold lube. I completely cleaned my chain, pulled the cassette apart, etc and now have the "Gold" lube on there. Test ride was QUIET, but time will tell. I should have about 100 miles on it by the weekend, but so far it seems like it may do the trick. Anyone else use it? -- Mark Wolfe http://www.wolfenet.org gpg fingerprint = 42B6 EFEB 5414 AA18 01B7 64AC EF46 F7E6 82F6 8C71 As the saying goes, if you give a man a fish, he eats for a day. If you teach him to grep for fish, he'll leave you alone all weekend. If you encourage him to beg for fish, pretty soon c.l.p.misc will smell like a three-week-dead trout. -- Tom Phoenix, c.l.p.misc.