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  1. Hi all,

    I've recently started training with a more experienced partner.

    He has over 8 years of training under his belt.

    We have been using a two on, one or two off split.

    We do upper body and lower body workouts, one exercise per body part.

    My question is this: would a beginner benifit more from a traditional
    chest/tri, back/bi, shoulders & legs split? Is growth more evident in a
    routine like this or does a upper body lower body split give the same
    results.

    If you have trained both ways, I would like your opinion on this.

    thanks.

    C


  2. Quoted message said:

    My question is this: would a beginner benifit more from a traditional
    chest/tri, back/bi, shoulders & legs split? Is growth more evident in a
    routine like this or does a upper body lower body split give the same
    results.

    If you have trained both ways, I would like your opinion on this.

    You say growth, so I gather your focus is on hypertrophy. Google HST and
    Haycock. IIRC full body workouts are a cornerstone.

  3. [email hidden] wrote in news:1131586457.768795.264510
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I've recently started training with a more experienced partner.

    He has over 8 years of training under his belt.

    We have been using a two on, one or two off split.

    We do upper body and lower body workouts, one exercise per body part.

    My question is this: would a beginner benifit more from a traditional
    chest/tri, back/bi, shoulders & legs split? Is growth more evident in a
    routine like this or does a upper body lower body split give the same
    results.

    If you have trained both ways, I would like your opinion on this.

    thanks.

    If you're new you'll gain on just about anything that's not retarded and
    there's nothing wrong with that split. If you were just pleasing yourself I
    might argue for whole-body workouts, but I don't think HST makes sense until
    you've been lifting a while (mebbe 6 months or so).

    But you're working with a partner. Probably better to stick with him and his
    routine.

    Hugh

    --
    Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
    chocolate. ("Ladi"😉

  4. [email hidden] wrote in news:1131586457.768795.264510
    @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I've recently started training with a more experienced partner.

    He has over 8 years of training under his belt.

    We have been using a two on, one or two off split.

    We do upper body and lower body workouts, one exercise per body part.

    My question is this: would a beginner benifit more from a traditional
    chest/tri, back/bi, shoulders & legs split? Is growth more evident in a
    routine like this or does a upper body lower body split give the same
    results.

    If you have trained both ways, I would like your opinion on this.

    thanks.

    If you're new you'll gain on just about anything that's not retarded and
    there's nothing wrong with that split. If you were just pleasing yourself I
    might argue for whole-body workouts, but I don't think HST makes sense until
    you've been lifting a while (mebbe 6 months or so).

    But you're working with a partner. Probably better to stick with him and his
    routine.

    Hugh

    --
    Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
    chocolate. ("Ladi"😉

  5. C,
    I would say that you will do better training with a partner. There
    are workouts that I would probably skip if I didn't have a partner
    because I felt tired or lazy, on most of these I go because me and my
    training partner have an appointment. When I get to the gym I usually
    feel fine after my warmup. I also seem to usually work harder at the
    workout since I don't want to "wimp out" or skip any sets.
    I have done full body and split routines (including the split you
    mention) in the past. My personal split that I like is leg/back and
    chest/tricep. Leg/back makes sense to me since I like to do deadlifts
    and it uses the legs and the back and ....nearly everything. The squat
    also works my back to some extent while it is getting my legs (I do
    deep squats). I think that the upper body, lower body split that you
    mention is a fine split, but I personally wouldn't do it anymore since
    I think deadlifts are such a great exercise. In my opinion deadlifts
    wouldn't naturally fit as a lower or upper body exercise, they're too
    compound a lift.
    A beginner could benefit from the split you mention, its a perfectly
    acceptable split.

    Good luck,
    James

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