RR: ER visit

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  1. Cleanbean

    Cleanbean Guest

    Sun. Morning 11am. Its a beautiful 73F day in Central Texas. My two kids Jenn and Josh are with me
    as we pull up to the trailhead. As I'm getting my daughters bike ready Josh quickly readies his and
    starts warming up. I notice out of the corner of my eye as he starts jumping a small hump close by
    and riding up and down some steep stuff. I think he was showing off in front of his sister. I told
    him on the way down to watch his descents and speed and not get to crazy. We start off down the road
    since I wanted my daughter (14yrs.) to get used to shifting and braking since she hasn't been on a
    bike for a while. I planned a fairly easy route with a couple of camel humps on it. Josh is mashing
    up front and Jenn is behind me. We get on the trail and not far ahead is the first jump. This can be
    easily traversed if you take it slow. It starts off mostly level with a slight hump then drops
    gradually about 5 foot. You can get big air if you hit it fast. With Josh in front I crest the
    camel's hump and see him there laying on the ground making this repetitive hideous noise. I tell him
    to get up and quite messing around thinking he was trying to psyc. out his sister. Further
    inspection revealed blood coming out his ear and eyes rolled behind his lids. My heart sank and the
    adrenalin kicked in. I quickly dismounted and started talking to him. He was incoherent. Jenn seeing
    everything starts to throw up off to the side. His eyes came back to normal and he started to move.
    He still didn't know where he was. He started asking what happened. After further inspection I see
    the blood in his ear is only from scratches. He said he couldn't see. I tried to get him to remain
    calm asking where else it hurt. He said his neck and back. I could only see scrapes and dirt but no
    ugly bumps or dislocations. Getting him to be still would prove impossible as he got up and tried to
    walk. His biggest complaint was that it was hard to breath. I asked again where his worst pain was
    and he said his ear. A local stopped to assist and I road about
    1/4 mi. to get the truck and I prayed on the way. He was talking more when I got back and said he
    wanted to walk in. We started to the truck and he got short of breath again so we put him on the
    bike and pushed him in. I didn't like moving him but he seemed to be coming around a lot better.
    We went to the ER and took x-rays of the neck and back just to be sure. The doc said no
    concussion or spinal problems, no broken bones. He got the wind knocked out of him pretty good
    and landed sideways on his head and shoulder. I'll imagine he will be pretty sore for the next
    few days. I've never been fond of getting air on jumps or humps. One of our local racers just got
    a Grade 3 separation for exactly the same reason. I need to explain XC riding a little better to
    my son who must have been hearing "Extreem Mtb." I think he was showing off for his sister but
    shhh don't tell her.

    I think his sister might be traumatized for life on her return to Mtbing. Lets hope not.

    Cleanbean and Jumpingbean and Jennbean
     
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  2. Sorni

    Sorni Guest

    "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Sun. Morning 11am. Its a beautiful 73F day in Central Texas. My two kids Jenn and Josh are with me
    > as we pull up to the trailhead. As I'm getting
    my
    > daughters bike ready Josh quickly readies his and starts warming up. I notice out of the corner of
    > my eye as he starts jumping a small hump close by and riding up and down some steep stuff. I think
    > he was showing off in front of his sister. I told him on the way down to watch his descents and
    > speed and not get to crazy. We start off down the road since I wanted my daughter (14yrs.) to get
    > used to shifting and braking since she hasn't
    been
    > on a bike for a while. I planned a fairly easy route with a couple of camel humps on it. Josh is
    > mashing up front and Jenn is behind me. We
    get
    > on the trail and not far ahead is the first jump. This can be easily traversed if you take it
    > slow. It starts off mostly level with a slight hump then drops gradually about 5 foot. You can get
    > big air if you hit
    it
    > fast. With Josh in front I crest the camel's hump and see him there
    laying
    > on the ground making this repetitive hideous noise. I tell him to get up and quite messing around
    > thinking he was trying to psyc. out his sister. Further inspection revealed blood coming out his
    > ear and eyes rolled
    behind
    > his lids. My heart sank and the adrenalin kicked in. I quickly
    dismounted
    > and started talking to him. He was incoherent. Jenn seeing everything starts to throw up off to
    > the side. His eyes came back to normal and he started to move. He still didn't know where he was.
    > He started asking
    what
    > happened. After further inspection I see the blood in his ear is only from scratches. He said he
    > couldn't see. I tried to get him to remain calm asking where else it hurt. He said his neck and
    > back. I could only see scrapes and dirt but no ugly bumps or dislocations. Getting him to be
    still
    > would prove impossible as he got up and tried to walk. His biggest complaint was that it was hard
    > to breath. I asked again where his worst pain was and he said his ear. A local stopped to assist
    > and I road about
    > 1/4 mi. to get the truck and I prayed on the way. He was talking more
    when
    > I got back and said he wanted to walk in. We started to the truck and he got short of breath again
    > so we put him on the bike and pushed him in. I didn't like moving him but he seemed to be coming
    > around a lot better. We went to the ER and took x-rays of the neck and back just to be sure. The
    > doc said no concussion or spinal problems, no broken bones. He got the
    wind
    > knocked out of him pretty good and landed sideways on his head and
    shoulder.
    > I'll imagine he will be pretty sore for the next few days. I've never
    been
    > fond of getting air on jumps or humps. One of our local racers just got a Grade 3 separation for
    > exactly the same reason. I need to explain XC
    riding
    > a little better to my son who must have been hearing "Extreem Mtb." I
    think
    > he was showing off for his sister but shhh don't tell her.
    >
    > I think his sister might be traumatized for life on her return to Mtbing. Lets hope not.
    >
    > Cleanbean and Jumpingbean and Jennbean

    Damn scary story, JCB -- sure glad it turned out to be not-too-serious!

    Bill "hope your daughter gets back out there!" S.
     
  3. David

    David Guest

  4. Cleanbean

    Cleanbean Guest

  5. Jimbo

    Jimbo Guest

    Cleanbean wrote:

    > Sun. Morning 11am. Its a beautiful 73F day in Central Texas. My two kids Jenn and Josh are with me
    > as we pull up to the trailhead. As I'm getting my daughters bike ready Josh quickly readies his
    > and starts warming up. I notice out of the corner of my eye as he starts jumping a small hump
    > close by and riding up and down some steep stuff. I think he was showing off in front of his
    > sister. I told him on the way down to watch his descents and speed and not get to crazy. We start
    > off down the road since I wanted my daughter (14yrs.) to get used to shifting and braking since
    > she hasn't been on a bike for a while. I planned a fairly easy route with a couple of camel humps
    > on it. Josh is mashing up front and Jenn is behind me. We get on the trail and not far ahead is
    > the first jump. This can be easily traversed if you take it slow. It starts off mostly level with
    > a slight hump then drops gradually about 5 foot. You can get big air if you hit it fast. With Josh
    > in front I crest the camel's hump and see him there laying on the ground making this repetitive
    > hideous noise. I tell him to get up and quite messing around thinking he was trying to psyc. out
    > his sister. Further inspection revealed blood coming out his ear and eyes rolled behind his lids.
    > My heart sank and the adrenalin kicked in. I quickly dismounted and started talking to him. He was
    > incoherent. Jenn seeing everything starts to throw up off to the side. His eyes came back to
    > normal and he started to move. He still didn't know where he was. He started asking what happened.
    > After further inspection I see the blood in his ear is only from scratches. He said he couldn't
    > see. I tried to get him to remain calm asking where else it hurt. He said his neck and back. I
    > could only see scrapes and dirt but no ugly bumps or dislocations. Getting him to be still would
    > prove impossible as he got up and tried to walk. His biggest complaint was that it was hard to
    > breath. I asked again where his worst pain was and he said his ear. A local stopped to assist and
    > I road about
    > 1/4 mi. to get the truck and I prayed on the way. He was talking more when I got back and said he
    > wanted to walk in. We started to the truck and he got short of breath again so we put him on the
    > bike and pushed him in. I didn't like moving him but he seemed to be coming around a lot better.
    > We went to the ER and took x-rays of the neck and back just to be sure. The doc said no
    > concussion or spinal problems, no broken bones. He got the wind knocked out of him pretty good
    > and landed sideways on his head and shoulder. I'll imagine he will be pretty sore for the next
    > few days. I've never been fond of getting air on jumps or humps. One of our local racers just
    > got a Grade 3 separation for exactly the same reason. I need to explain XC riding a little
    > better to my son who must have been hearing "Extreem Mtb." I think he was showing off for his
    > sister but shhh don't tell her.
    >
    > I think his sister might be traumatized for life on her return to Mtbing. Lets hope not.
    >
    > Cleanbean and Jumpingbean and Jennbean

    Dang! I am glad to hear he is ok.

    Jimbo(san)
     
  6. Bean, Glad to hear he's OK. I know that feeling of "Ohmigosh, that's my kid lying
    there......." Too well.

    Steve
     
  7. Bill Wheeler

    Bill Wheeler Guest

    On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 20:46:23 GMT, "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote:

    [snip]

    glad he's okay,

    bill

    The mind serves properly as a window glass rather than as a reflector, that is, the mind should give
    an immediate view instead of an interpretation of the world.
    :-]
     
  8. Dave

    Dave Guest

    "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Sun. Morning 11am. Its a beautiful 73F day in Central Texas.

    -Snip unscheduled ER visit!-

    Dang bean, very sorry to hear that. Glad to hear he is o.k.

    Very scary from a parental point of view...

    Dave (ouch too!)
     
  9. "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > Cleanbean and Jumpingbean and Jennbean
    >
    >
    Sounds rough, I hope he is both OK and confident to go back out again soon. Kids are tough!
    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
     
  10. David wrote:
    > "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    >>... The doc said no concussion
    >
    >
    > He may have said it, but that doesn't make it so.

    No kidding. got a concussion (albeit minor, enough to kill my memory of the event and kill my
    short-medium term memory for a while) in 4th grade.... the nurse told me to go to sleep because I
    didn't have a concussion.

    I'd go to a specialist, and do try to monitor him while he sleeps. If he hit himself hard enough
    that he had temporary amnesia (or permanent, like I had above) then its not a far shot at all to say
    he probably got a concussion. That and being knocked out, incoherent, and whatnot... not good signs.

    > http://www.uvm.edu/~aicarlso/Concussion.htm
    >
    > Glad your son is OK.

    Here's wishing for a fast recovery, for him AND your daughter.

    Jon "C" Bond
     
  11. Mattb

    Mattb Guest

    "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    ><snip> fast. With Josh in front I crest the camel's hump and see him there
    laying
    > on the ground making this repetitive hideous noise. I tell him to get up and quite messing around
    > thinking he was trying to psyc. out his sister. Further inspection revealed blood coming out his
    > ear and eyes rolled
    behind
    > his lids.

    Wow. That would really freak me out. It's what I used to do to my parents. Glad it all came out OK,
    but keep an eye on him just to be sure. Hopefully a good lesson for them both but not a total
    deterrent from the sport. Nice job with the quick, cool reaction!

    Matt
     
  12. Cleanbean wrote:
    > Sun. Morning 11am.

    <phew> that was a close one! Luckily kids heal fast. and those "permanent emotional scars" _do_ also
    heal over time, (Or so I'm told by my therapist ;-)
     
  13. Simon

    Simon Guest

    "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    | I think his sister might be traumatized for life on her return to Mtbing. Lets hope not.
    |
    | Cleanbean and Jumpingbean and Jennbean

    Glad to hear he is okay. I have 16, 13 and 4 year olds to look after and its tough at times on the
    heart (btw they came with the better half). Our 4 year old watches bmx and motocross rather than
    nick junior and is already trying to get air and its scarey as hell. But I wont stop her, I think if
    one can have a basic grasp of all disciplines (Xc, downhill, jump, road, freeride, street) it allows
    for greater control overall.

    Maybe ask your son, when he feels better, if he was actualy trying to jump. If the answer is yes
    then look for a local club or teach him the basics yourself. Then next time he should catch air and
    land with perfection.

    Simon....am i rambling again?
     
  14. Jd

    Jd Guest

    "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Sun. Morning 11am. Its a beautiful 73F day in Central Texas. My two kids Jenn and Josh are with me
    > as we pull up to the trailhead. As I'm getting my daughters bike ready Josh quickly readies his
    > and starts warming up. I notice out of the corner of my eye as he starts jumping a small hump
    > close by and riding up and down some steep stuff. I think he was showing off in front of his
    > sister. I told him on the way down to watch his descents and speed and not get to crazy. We start
    > off down the road since I wanted my daughter (14yrs.) to get used to shifting and braking since
    > she hasn't been on a bike for a while. I planned a fairly easy route with a couple of camel humps
    > on it. Josh is mashing up front and Jenn is behind me. We get on the trail and not far ahead is
    > the first jump. This can be easily traversed if you take it slow. It starts off mostly level with
    > a slight hump then drops gradually about 5 foot. You can get big air if you hit it fast. With Josh
    > in front I crest the camel's hump and see him there laying on the ground making this repetitive
    > hideous noise. I tell him to get up and quite messing around thinking he was trying to psyc. out
    > his sister. Further inspection revealed blood coming out his ear and eyes rolled behind his lids.\

    Most accidents occur within 100 yards of the parking lot. When he recovers, she'll probably follow
    suit. Score one for adolscent resiliency.

    JD
     
  15. Shaun Rimmer

    Shaun Rimmer Guest

    Cleanbean <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I need to explain XC riding a little better to my son who must have been hearing "Extreem Mtb." I
    think
    > he was showing off for his sister but shhh don't tell her.
    >
    > I think his sister might be traumatized for life on her return to Mtbing. Lets hope not.
    >
    > Cleanbean and Jumpingbean and Jennbean

    Holy shit! My heart jumped into my throat when I read the bit about blood in his ear and whited eyes
    - I crapped myself for you all <shudder>. Glad he's alright - must have been a real shocker.

    Take care,

    Shaun aRe
     
  16. Paladin

    Paladin Guest

    "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Sun. Morning 11am. Its a beautiful 73F day in Central Texas. My two kids Jenn and Josh are with me
    > as we pull up to the trailhead. As I'm getting my daughters bike ready Josh quickly readies his
    > and starts warming up. I notice out of the corner of my eye as he starts jumping a small hump
    > close by and riding up and down some steep stuff. I think he was showing off in front of his
    > sister. I told him on the way down to watch his descents and speed and not get to crazy. We start
    > off down the road since I wanted my daughter (14yrs.) to get used to shifting and braking since
    > she hasn't been on a bike for a while. I planned a fairly easy route with a couple of camel humps
    > on it. Josh is mashing up front and Jenn is behind me. We get on the trail and not far ahead is
    > the first jump. This can be easily traversed if you take it slow. It starts off mostly level with
    > a slight hump then drops gradually about 5 foot. You can get big air if you hit it fast. With Josh
    > in front I crest the camel's hump and see him there laying on the ground making this repetitive
    > hideous noise. I tell him to get up and quite messing around thinking he was trying to psyc. out
    > his sister. Further inspection revealed blood coming out his ear and eyes rolled behind his lids.
    > My heart sank and the adrenalin kicked in. I quickly dismounted and started talking to him. He was
    > incoherent. Jenn seeing everything starts to throw up off to the side. His eyes came back to
    > normal and he started to move. He still didn't know where he was. He started asking what happened.
    > After further inspection I see the blood in his ear is only from scratches. He said he couldn't
    > see. I tried to get him to remain calm asking where else it hurt. He said his neck and back. I
    > could only see scrapes and dirt but no ugly bumps or dislocations. Getting him to be still would
    > prove impossible as he got up and tried to walk. His biggest complaint was that it was hard to
    > breath. I asked again where his worst pain was and he said his ear. A local stopped to assist and
    > I road about
    > 1/4 mi. to get the truck and I prayed on the way. He was talking more when I got back and said he
    > wanted to walk in. We started to the truck and he got short of breath again so we put him on the
    > bike and pushed him in. I didn't like moving him but he seemed to be coming around a lot better.
    > We went to the ER and took x-rays of the neck and back just to be sure. The doc said no
    > concussion or spinal problems, no broken bones. He got the wind knocked out of him pretty good
    > and landed sideways on his head and shoulder. I'll imagine he will be pretty sore for the next
    > few days. I've never been fond of getting air on jumps or humps. One of our local racers just
    > got a Grade 3 separation for exactly the same reason. I need to explain XC riding a little
    > better to my son who must have been hearing "Extreem Mtb." I think he was showing off for his
    > sister but shhh don't tell her.
    >
    > I think his sister might be traumatized for life on her return to Mtbing. Lets hope not.
    >
    > Cleanbean and Jumpingbean and Jennbean

    Youch, Bean, that must have been a scary one. Thank God Jumpingbean is OK.

    A couple years back my daughter shot out ahead of me, then I come around this corner and couldn't
    see her anywhere. I *heard* her way down off the trail, where she'd sailed airborn, and thankfully,
    landed on some sage brush with just some scrapes and bruises. They say God protects idiots and
    children. That's pretty much got my family covered.

    Paladin
     
  17. Cleanbean

    Cleanbean Guest

    Can you believe he went to school on Monday? I'm amazed. He is pretty scraped up but doing good.
    After asking him how he jumps he said he just zooms over and pulls up a little with his hands. We
    will start small again and go from there. I know I'm not comfortable on jumps unless I pull up a lot
    on the front and usually preload a tad to launch evenly.

    Cleanbean
     
  18. L Hays

    L Hays Guest

    "Cleanbean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Can you believe he went to school on Monday? I'm amazed. He is pretty scraped up but doing good.
    > After asking him how he jumps he said he just zooms over and pulls up a little with his hands. We
    > will start small
    again
    > and go from there. I know I'm not comfortable on jumps unless I pull up a lot on the front and
    > usually preload a tad to launch evenly.
    >
    > Cleanbean
    >
    >
    Cleanbean,

    Glad to see he made out okay. If you saw an earlier RR about my son, I was in the same boat not to
    long ago. He didn't suffer any head trauma besides a scraped face (thanks to the helmet) but he
    still complains about his arm bothering him after the fall.

    Those darned kids,

    Lance
     
  19. Sorni

    Sorni Guest

    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > Holy shit! My heart jumped into my throat when I read the bit about blood
    in
    > his ear and whited eyes - I crapped myself for you all

    Well, SOMETHING good came of it at least :)

    Bill "holy shit, indeed" S.
     
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