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Finally, a question on treadmill jogging, something he's qualified to comment on.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:34:35 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Phil Holman wrote:
>>
>> "Mark Hickey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "apusapus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Chris Maginn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >news:[email protected]...
>>> >
>>> >> Anyone have an expert opinion on this subject or can point me to a
>> site
>>> >that has an indepth discussion?
>>> >
>>> >Sack you coach and forget about this trivia. Just run.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I experimented with my own optimal cadence on the treadmill. Just set the speed to race
>>> pace, and then try to find the cadence that produces the lowest heart rate.
>>>
>>> Crude, yes. But it did seem to work for me (I run very little due to knee issues, but do OK in
>>> races).
>>
>> So Mark, what were the specifics of your treadmill test? For a given running speed, there must be
>> a trade off between the additional energy required for a faster leg turnover and the probable
>> losses due to increased vertical body displacement with a longer stride. For shorter events,
>> effectiveness overshadows efficiency but for long distance, the 180+ bum shuffle would arguably
>> be more efficient as well as possibly reducing fatigue inducing foot strike forces.
>
>Anecdotally, some have observed that the mile is approximately the point at which turnover
>increases notably. I've observed that I start getting slight turnover increases as I get close to 1
>mile race pace when doing track intervals.
>
>For shorter distances like 400m or less, turnover would probably be much faster than 180/min,
>possibly as high as 240/min.
>
>Cheers,
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:34:35 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Phil Holman wrote:
>>
>> "Mark Hickey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "apusapus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Chris Maginn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >news:[email protected]...
>>> >
>>> >> Anyone have an expert opinion on this subject or can point me to a
>> site
>>> >that has an indepth discussion?
>>> >
>>> >Sack you coach and forget about this trivia. Just run.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I experimented with my own optimal cadence on the treadmill. Just set the speed to race
>>> pace, and then try to find the cadence that produces the lowest heart rate.
>>>
>>> Crude, yes. But it did seem to work for me (I run very little due to knee issues, but do OK in
>>> races).
>>
>> So Mark, what were the specifics of your treadmill test? For a given running speed, there must be
>> a trade off between the additional energy required for a faster leg turnover and the probable
>> losses due to increased vertical body displacement with a longer stride. For shorter events,
>> effectiveness overshadows efficiency but for long distance, the 180+ bum shuffle would arguably
>> be more efficient as well as possibly reducing fatigue inducing foot strike forces.
>
>Anecdotally, some have observed that the mile is approximately the point at which turnover
>increases notably. I've observed that I start getting slight turnover increases as I get close to 1
>mile race pace when doing track intervals.
>
>For shorter distances like 400m or less, turnover would probably be much faster than 180/min,
>possibly as high as 240/min.
>
>Cheers,