"Frank" <
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> "Nathaniel Porter" <
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> > > Now I can't control what you find intimidating,
> >
> > Indeed - just as I (or anyone else) can't control what you (or anyone
> else)
> > finds intimidating.
> >
> > >many find dominating women in short skirts intimidating, you probably fall into this category.
> > >
> >
> > Remind me, who was it who posted
> >
> > "Nowhere near as intimidating as cars."?
> >
> Yes cars are likely to hurt me drive to close to me pull out in front of
me,
> there is a constant threat,
Fair enough, (assuming you're complying wholely with the HC and Traffic Laws - if you aren't the
main threat to you is yourself.)
> I used the example of women in short skirts to show how people use the word differently.
>
Again, fair enough.
> Now your next argument of generalising all crime to kids on street corners is bizzare nonsense.
My generalisation was that 10% of all crimes against the person as detailed in the link I posted
were street crimes - yes I accept that not all of these would have been by street gangs.
>Kids on street corners are mouthy and rude, but that doesn't make them murders and rapists.
No, but a fair few are.
> You might well be scared to have an asian living next to you because he is a member of Al Qaeda .
Err, no. I wouldn't live in Bedford is I was!
>This is exactly the predjudice I was complaining about, they behave differently from how
you
> would like and suddenly they are saddled with the crimes of drug addicts
and
> career criminals, but really they are just normal kids.
>
It's also the exact prejudice I was complaining about - though I was complaining about people always
claiming the car and motorists are always wrong, always evil and always at fault.
> The reason people don't let kids out to play is because the roads are so dangerous, kids aren't
> always careful and most motorist seem to think it
is
> fair game to drive down residential streets in excess of 30mph, which is killing and maiming
> speed. This is where the thread started a kid killed
or
> maimed.
>
Now, alot of this seems to be about where you live. Perhaps where you live you don't have a problem
with street gangs of kids - neither does Bedford have a speeding problem.
> >
> > I note that you wish to compare those killed by street thugs, to those
> KSIed
> > by motorists. How balenced. No I wanted to compare those killed by kids on street corners, I
> > didn't
> say they were thugs. But yes it does seem to be a sensible way of looking to see who I should be
> intimidated by.
>
My point was comparing killed with KSI. Surely to be fair you'd count murders (& attempted),
manslaughters and GBH to KSI?
> Everyday I go out on my bike and I'm scared as a car overtakes too close
or
> pulls out in front of me, occassionally too I see kids who yell things
like
> "your wheels are going round", I know what I'm scared of.
>
But would would you be scared if the car overtook appropriately, or gave you more room when pulling
out - and if the street gang was drunk, showing off knives etc.?
You can make anything scarier than anything if you word it right.
> When I was a kid I did play out on street corners sometimes we were
naughty,
> we never seriously hurt anyone,
You do realise that "we never seriously hurt anyone" implies you did hurt someone?
>but now I don't feel I can let my kid play out past my cul-de-sac, not because I'm scared of him
>being attacked by street gangs, but because I'm scared of him being run over, by a sensible driver
>who drives at the standard 35-40 down the residential road at the end of our cul-de-sac.
>
i) People who driver at 35-40 in a residential area are not sensible.
ii) How old is your kid? Is he old enough to learn road safety, and knows not to run into the road,
and use the green cross code and so on?
Lastly, if you find cars so intimdating, why do you cycle? dictionary.com has "Intimidation"
defined as:
1)To make timid; fill with fear.
2)To coerce or inhibit by or as if by threats.
If you're not scared or inhibited by the threat from cars, you're not intimidated, and the car is
not intimidating. If you are made timid, filled with fear etc - then why do you cycle?
