Saiz believes the Tour is too big

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  1. Saiz believes the Tour is too big:

    (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/feb03/feb24news2).

    "Nowadays cycling is being seen more and more as a synonym for the Tour de France and vice-versa,"
    Saiz was recently quoted in El Correo. "I think this is wrong and this is bad."

    Although the ONCE years clashed with the reign of Miguel Indurain in the Tour in the early 90's, and
    then Lance Armstrong in the last four years, Saiz' words can't be interpreted as jealousy. Focusing
    on "our responsibilities" instead of "their responsibilities" Manolo paints the monster: "We can't
    create something so big that makes everything else look like an ant," he stated. "If we do so we're
    creating a monster that will eat us."

    Manolo does not pay tribute to riders who specialise in the Tour. "I can't accept that a rider who
    is only focused on the Tour could be considered more important than the seasonal riders," he said
    emphatically. "How it is possible that Museeuw or Zabel are treated as if they had no value while
    Armstrong is looked like he was the Holy Bible?"

    He is also concerned that the Tour is impacting on other big races in the form of TV rights. "Each
    year, the Tour bills more and more for TV rights," he observes. "While the Vuelta, Giro and World
    Cup are billing less and less each time."

    Speaking as the president of the team's association, Saiz adds, "After all, of the Grand Tours, the
    Tour the one that distributes the least portion of its gains to the teams. We [the teams] make the
    grandeur of the Tour, and it rewards us with nothing."

    "I love the Tour, but I believe that cycling is (or must be) bigger than the Tour."

    Manolo Saiz is conscious that Tour fever has infested his ONCE team leader Joseba Beloki, who
    declared that he would prefer to be second in the Tour rather than win the Vuelta. "I'm trying to
    change Beloki's mentality," confessed Saiz, "Because that is surely an error. You get a second
    position in the Tour? Great you're a good rider. But if you win the Vuelta or the Giro you are a
    champion. Win, that's what differentiates a champion from a good rider. Beloki must understand that
    once for all."

    "After the last Vuelta I asked my riders 'Do you know who was the winner? The one that had the
    ambition to win'. Ambition produces champions. Conformity produces losers."

    However for Saiz, these words do not even count as involuntary praise of Armstrong. "For Armstrong
    only the Tour counts, nothing else," said Manolo. "After the Tour he goes back home to only reappear
    the following year. I don't think that's good."

    Finally, Saiz recalled the good old days. "Today cycling is monotonous," he lamented. "When I was
    young, OcaƱa and Merckx used to escape from the peloton five climbs before the finish line. Now
    there are still 50 riders at the bottom of the last climb. OK! We then have 10 minutes of top level
    cycling, but we've had five hours of boredom behind us.""

    I too believe that the TDF has too much importance. I think the UCI and should give more points to
    other races. Perhaps the UCI could also give large prize money to the World cup winner.
     
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  2. On 24 Feb 2003 13:13:45 -0800, Heinz Getzler wrote:
    > (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/feb03/feb24news2).

    While this is probably worthy of discussion, it is hardly necessary to quote entire cyclingnews
    articles. How many rbr readers do you think do not read cn?

    I think Saiz is a hypocrit. He wants to win the Tour, but can't make it work. Where is ONCE in the
    Giro or the World Cup?
     
  3. Tom Kunich

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    "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On 24 Feb 2003 13:13:45 -0800, Heinz Getzler wrote:
    > > (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/feb03/feb24news2).
    >
    > While this is probably worthy of discussion, it is hardly necessary
    to
    > quote entire cyclingnews articles. How many rbr readers do you think do not read cn?
    >
    > I think Saiz is a hypocrit. He wants to win the Tour, but can't make it work. Where is ONCE in the
    > Giro or the World Cup?

    Here, here.
     
  4. On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:34:37 GMT, Tom Kunich wrote:
    >> Where is ONCE in the Giro or the World Cup?
    >
    >Here, here.

    They're staying at your place?!
     
  5. Robert Chung

    Robert Chung Guest

    "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote
    > On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:34:37 GMT, Tom Kunich wrote:
    > >> Where is ONCE in the Giro or the World Cup?
    > >
    > >Here, here.
    >
    > They're staying at your place?!

    POTM.
     
  6. Bart

    Bart Guest

  7. Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    > On 24 Feb 2003 13:13:45 -0800, Heinz Getzler wrote:
    > > (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/feb03/feb24news2).
    >
    > While this is probably worthy of discussion, it is hardly necessary to quote entire cyclingnews
    > articles. How many rbr readers do you think do not read cn?
    >
    > I think Saiz is a hypocrit. He wants to win the Tour, but can't make it work. Where is ONCE in the
    > Giro or the World Cup?
    It's true that Once has not had a TDF winner, but on the otherhand I thinz Saiz does make some
    valid points.
     
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