http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3652555388
As a vauge public service (to forum members) I though I would post a typical "scam sale" on Ebay. The bike looks good, and the price is right, but:
No size (can get 'all sizes' just send money)
When asked he will not do escrow
Will only take Western Union, but "transfer to his name, but say 'payment to friend' not 'purchase'"....
At one point I offered to arrange pick up in Milan, but he declined, despite fact he saves shipping and insurance...
Just for fun I exchanged email with this clown. Below is his reply: interesting reading.
p.s. I did warn the buyer...
Hi,
The bike size is 54cm(medium)C-T.If you are intrested in another size of the bike please tell me and I will call my source to see if your option is available for sale.I live in Italy and here I find it a great source of the bikes.The bike what I'm selling is brand new, factory sealed with ALL the accesories.It will come with waranty fully transferable to your name and with the receipt from the authorized dealer so you can use the warranty at every authorized service center with no problem.
I used and I use for shipping the big concern UPS but if you want you can choose another mail carrier it's not a problem that. If you will choose UPS, it usually takes 48 hours until the bike is delivered. I will cover the shipping and insurance costs and I usualy send all of my packages with a label that says either "display unit, no commercial value" or describes the contents of the package as a gift so that you don't have to pay any additional taxes,it's with VAT included.
About the payment I have more than 3 years of experience in these business and I have closed a lot of sucessful deals you can check my feedback on e-bay for you can be sure about that. In all this period I learned that the best deals are closed when the risk is minimized for the both the seller and buyer. As a result, I have developed a system that can work to this goal. You will have to do the money transfer through Western Union to my location but not into my name. Instead, you can use any name you want,your best friends name for example, as receiver's name so you can be sure that I will not pick up the money until you receive the bike. Once you have made the deposit at Western Union, you will notify me of the transfer details(sender's name and receiver's name) so that I can call at Western Union office to check that if the transaction is valid and if it's so, I will then immediately send you the bike and email you the tracking number from UPS. When you receive the bike and verify its quality, you will then change the transfer to my name so that I can collect the payment. My old buyers made the transfer at Western Union direct to my name, which is easier and I will be happy if you can trust me and make the transfer with my details, but because this would be our first deal, I am proposing this very safe and efficient method.
Return policy: In case you change your mind after receiving the package and want to cancel the order, you can ship it back to me and retrieve the money from Western Union. Also, in case the delivery does not arrive on time, please email me and I'll contact the mail carrier.
Very important! When you'll make the transfer, do NOT tell to Western Union that you are makeing a payment for a purchase, because they will charge us both. When you will change the receiver name into mine so I can get the money I will not receive the same amount you are sending, and I already support the shipping and insurance costs. Better tell them that you are sending the money for a relative of yours.
I hope you will agree this procedure and I wait your answer asap.
I hope that we will close the business as soon as possible.
Best Regards!
Nick
As a vauge public service (to forum members) I though I would post a typical "scam sale" on Ebay. The bike looks good, and the price is right, but:
No size (can get 'all sizes' just send money)
When asked he will not do escrow
Will only take Western Union, but "transfer to his name, but say 'payment to friend' not 'purchase'"....
At one point I offered to arrange pick up in Milan, but he declined, despite fact he saves shipping and insurance...
Just for fun I exchanged email with this clown. Below is his reply: interesting reading.
p.s. I did warn the buyer...
Hi,
The bike size is 54cm(medium)C-T.If you are intrested in another size of the bike please tell me and I will call my source to see if your option is available for sale.I live in Italy and here I find it a great source of the bikes.The bike what I'm selling is brand new, factory sealed with ALL the accesories.It will come with waranty fully transferable to your name and with the receipt from the authorized dealer so you can use the warranty at every authorized service center with no problem.
I used and I use for shipping the big concern UPS but if you want you can choose another mail carrier it's not a problem that. If you will choose UPS, it usually takes 48 hours until the bike is delivered. I will cover the shipping and insurance costs and I usualy send all of my packages with a label that says either "display unit, no commercial value" or describes the contents of the package as a gift so that you don't have to pay any additional taxes,it's with VAT included.
About the payment I have more than 3 years of experience in these business and I have closed a lot of sucessful deals you can check my feedback on e-bay for you can be sure about that. In all this period I learned that the best deals are closed when the risk is minimized for the both the seller and buyer. As a result, I have developed a system that can work to this goal. You will have to do the money transfer through Western Union to my location but not into my name. Instead, you can use any name you want,your best friends name for example, as receiver's name so you can be sure that I will not pick up the money until you receive the bike. Once you have made the deposit at Western Union, you will notify me of the transfer details(sender's name and receiver's name) so that I can call at Western Union office to check that if the transaction is valid and if it's so, I will then immediately send you the bike and email you the tracking number from UPS. When you receive the bike and verify its quality, you will then change the transfer to my name so that I can collect the payment. My old buyers made the transfer at Western Union direct to my name, which is easier and I will be happy if you can trust me and make the transfer with my details, but because this would be our first deal, I am proposing this very safe and efficient method.
Return policy: In case you change your mind after receiving the package and want to cancel the order, you can ship it back to me and retrieve the money from Western Union. Also, in case the delivery does not arrive on time, please email me and I'll contact the mail carrier.
Very important! When you'll make the transfer, do NOT tell to Western Union that you are makeing a payment for a purchase, because they will charge us both. When you will change the receiver name into mine so I can get the money I will not receive the same amount you are sending, and I already support the shipping and insurance costs. Better tell them that you are sending the money for a relative of yours.
I hope you will agree this procedure and I wait your answer asap.
I hope that we will close the business as soon as possible.
Best Regards!
Nick