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Is it not odd that people don't record the "actual" fatique test
results of these Sapim and other spokes. I find it strange that bike
enthusiasts don't club round and make a site that displays actual real
life tests on various spoke/build/rim combinations. You could have a
simple data base of rim, spoke and hand/machine build information
which has come from individual riders having actually riden these
combos.
I have just had a Sapim "Strong" 13 single butted spokes
and washered wheel, using a stainless steel double box section
westrick and Sturmey AW hub built up by Fairlight cycles. I'm going to
keep a log and see for definite how many miles i actually get. I have
just got 800 miles from a 13g terrible handbuild before spoke
breakage(with extremely light road riding), so that's my bench mark.
Wheel two is on 300 miles using a better builder and 14 DT straights.
Hopefully we'll see 1k this time round.
If someone wanted to end this apparently perpetual discussion over
spoke life, it would be great if a novice could go to a dedicated
website and look-up a section that tells him that if he uses x rim and
y spokes in conjuction with handbuild/machine build and a normal load,
then he should, on average expect z miles before spoke breakage. I
realise there are numerous extraneous variables, but a rough average
would be possible for each combination. Maybe if that happened, some
of the spoke manufacturers would get miffed because real life would
show conclusively that their spokes are inferior.
I reckon it would save a lot of time for people so that they could
avoid making the same mistakes every time, though the bike industry
would probably suffer financially.
Has anyone actually tried this before and found a repeatable average
for any one particular spoke/rim combo?
cheers, Nick.
results of these Sapim and other spokes. I find it strange that bike
enthusiasts don't club round and make a site that displays actual real
life tests on various spoke/build/rim combinations. You could have a
simple data base of rim, spoke and hand/machine build information
which has come from individual riders having actually riden these
combos.
I have just had a Sapim "Strong" 13 single butted spokes
and washered wheel, using a stainless steel double box section
westrick and Sturmey AW hub built up by Fairlight cycles. I'm going to
keep a log and see for definite how many miles i actually get. I have
just got 800 miles from a 13g terrible handbuild before spoke
breakage(with extremely light road riding), so that's my bench mark.
Wheel two is on 300 miles using a better builder and 14 DT straights.
Hopefully we'll see 1k this time round.
If someone wanted to end this apparently perpetual discussion over
spoke life, it would be great if a novice could go to a dedicated
website and look-up a section that tells him that if he uses x rim and
y spokes in conjuction with handbuild/machine build and a normal load,
then he should, on average expect z miles before spoke breakage. I
realise there are numerous extraneous variables, but a rough average
would be possible for each combination. Maybe if that happened, some
of the spoke manufacturers would get miffed because real life would
show conclusively that their spokes are inferior.
I reckon it would save a lot of time for people so that they could
avoid making the same mistakes every time, though the bike industry
would probably suffer financially.
Has anyone actually tried this before and found a repeatable average
for any one particular spoke/rim combo?
cheers, Nick.