SAT R DAY & a 200K Brevet (Short Kinda)

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  1. Jkeenan

    Jkeenan Guest

    If anyone is considering a "folder" or a "take me with you" recumbent, I heartily recommend the Bike
    SAT R DAY by Bike Friday.

    Out of work since 9/11, a "consulting" gig had me in Miami Florida for a week or two a month since
    last August. While I could borrow a V-REX, I always was concenred if "something happened". Borrowing
    a bike once is fine, but like Ben Franklin said: "Fish and bike borrowers stink after 3 visits".
    Okay, I paraphrased a bit. What to do?

    I kept looking wistfully at the Bike SAT R DAY but the cost was more than I thought I could hide
    from my wife...er... .I mean than I could afford. Some discussion led me to Larry Varney, who was
    selling his SAT R DAY. On impulse I said "Sure, why not. I could always sell it in a year". I'm glad
    I took the plunge.

    The recumbent SAT R DAY came fully equipped from Larry, including his 3 years of chain lubrication.
    (Ducking from Larry). There was nothing I could find mechanically wrong with the SRD. From a riding
    perspective, my only wish was that the seat back was taller, however given how this has to pack in a
    suitcase, I still had that recumbent smile. It's a joy to remove the seat, fold the SRD, and pop it
    in the trunk.

    I did a couple of week end rides with Shari Bernhard and her group of merry marauders to break the
    SRD and me in. I also took it to the office and road it after work for an hour or so. The SRD rides
    a bit harsher because of the smaller wheels and probably because I always over inflate my tires by
    about 20 lbs.

    The BIG test was that I am hopeful of doing Paris-Brest-Paris this year and to do that you have to
    complete a 200K, 300K, 400K and 600K in succession. Jim Solanick of the West Palm Beach bicycle club
    had a 200K ride scheduled for January, so I signed up. My fear was that I would be significanly
    slower on the SRD than on my V-REX. Given that I'm a slow rider to start with, would I be able to
    complete the ride in the allotted time?

    The ride would cover 127 miles in "flat" Florida and started at 7:00. Looking around at the start, I
    could tell these were some serious upright riders. I saw one other recumbent: A Bachetta Strada, but
    didn't have time to say hello. The 'pack' took off and I said to myself: "Self, you with the fast
    crowd now".

    On any long ride I know I have to "do my pace" and just go with the flow of how I'm feeling. In
    this case, it meant I could tell each of the rest stop volunteers: "Okay, you can pack up now. I'm
    the last one". What was a joy was how the SRD performed on this ride. I was able to keep a good
    pace even into 30 to 35 miles of about a 20mph or higher headwind with no break. I mean the route
    headed north into the headwind for at least 30 miles. "Scooching" down in the seat allowed me to
    reduce my wind resistance. I'm from hilly northern NJ. I'll take hills over flat and headwinds
    anyday. I found out later that my pace into the headwinds wasn't much different than a few of the
    "upright" riders that I had met. I'm sure the "aero" qualities of the SRD recumbent made up for my
    lack of speed muscles.

    The SRD has a rear Sachs hub and a 7 gear cogset. This is the 1999 model, the first year that Bike
    Friday made the SAT R DAY. The shifting was crisp and flawless. Because of the gear inches with this
    bent, I found my self in the "big hub ring" so to speak most of the time. I'm a spinner and could
    spin comfortably with the SRD and keep a good pace.

    The ride covered 200K or 127 miles. On a "Brevet" you can NOT get assistance and must do the
    complete course. You never know where a "secret control" or check-in might be. I got lost twice and
    ended up with 152 miles on the odometer in a total riding time of just under 11 hours or about a
    13.8 overall mph. Compared to my V-REX, my guesstimate is that the SRD is about 10% to 15% "slower"
    or less efficient. Don't forget it has 16 wheels. But the good side is that I'm riding......and
    I'm riding a recumbent.

    Yup..the SRD finished last. Correction: "I" finished last, but as said before, I be a slow rider. As
    I pulled in one of the riders who had finished in about 8 hours was on a cell phone and said:
    "Unbelievable...some guy is here on a folding bike with 16" tires and did the ride". He asked me how
    I felt. I had this big recumbent smile on my face and said: "Do we have time left to do a metric"?

    In conclusion, for a folding "recumbent" and a "fun" bike, check out a SAT R DAY if you have the
    chance. The thing fits in a suitcase. NEAT.

    joe 'recumbo' keenan
     
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  2. Tom Sherman

    Tom Sherman Guest

    JKeenan wrote:
    > ... The BIG test was that I am hopeful of doing Paris-Brest-Paris this year and to do that you
    > have to complete a 200K, 300K, 400K and 600K in succession. Jim Solanick of the West Palm Beach
    > bicycle club had a 200K ride scheduled for January, so I signed up. My fear was that I would be
    > significanly slower on the SRD than on my V-REX. Given that I'm a slow rider to start with, would
    > I be able to complete the ride in the allotted time?...

    > ...Compared to my V-REX, my guesstimate is that the SRD is about 10% to 15% "slower" or less
    > efficient. Don't forget it has 16 wheels....

    Joe,

    Here is an account of riding PBP by occasional a.r.b.r. poster and RCN columnist Kent Peterson. [1]
    Kent rode PBP on a folding bike from Greengear with small wheel, albeit a Bike Friday upright, not a
    Sat R Day.

    Please post a picture of the Sat R Day with 16 wheels. ;)

    [1] < http://www.halcyon.com/peterson/pbpstory.html >

    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
    Dragonflyer
     
  3. Nice report Joe, I'm envious or your winter 150. We're having a heatwave here, 21 degrees this
    afternoon ye ha. Denny in Sayre, Pa "Bent but not Broken" "JKeenan" <[email protected]>
    wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > If anyone is considering a "folder" or a "take me with you" recumbent, I heartily recommend the
    > Bike SAT R DAY by Bike Friday.
    >
    > Out of work since 9/11, a "consulting" gig had me in Miami Florida for a week or two a month since
    > last August. While I could borrow a V-REX, I always was concenred if "something happened".
    > Borrowing a bike once is fine, but like Ben Franklin said: "Fish and bike borrowers stink after 3
    > visits". Okay, I paraphrased a bit. What to do?
    >
    > I kept looking wistfully at the Bike SAT R DAY but the cost was more than
    I
    > thought I could hide from my wife...er... .I mean than I could afford.
    Some
    > discussion led me to Larry Varney, who was selling his SAT R DAY. On impulse I said "Sure, why
    > not. I could always sell it in a year". I'm
    glad
    > I took the plunge.
    >
    > The recumbent SAT R DAY came fully equipped from Larry, including his 3 years of chain
    > lubrication. (Ducking from Larry). There was nothing I
    could
    > find mechanically wrong with the SRD. From a riding perspective, my only wish was that the seat
    > back was taller, however given how this has to pack in a suitcase, I still had that recumbent
    > smile. It's a joy to remove the seat, fold the SRD, and pop it in the trunk.
    >
    > I did a couple of week end rides with Shari Bernhard and her group of
    merry
    > marauders to break the SRD and me in. I also took it to the office and
    road
    > it after work for an hour or so. The SRD rides a bit harsher because of
    the
    > smaller wheels and probably because I always over inflate my tires by
    about
    > 20 lbs.
    >
    > The BIG test was that I am hopeful of doing Paris-Brest-Paris this year
    and
    > to do that you have to complete a 200K, 300K, 400K and 600K in succession. Jim Solanick of the
    > West Palm Beach bicycle club had a 200K ride scheduled for January, so I signed up. My fear was
    > that I would be significanly
    slower
    > on the SRD than on my V-REX. Given that I'm a slow rider to start with, would I be able to
    > complete the ride in the allotted time?
    >
    > The ride would cover 127 miles in "flat" Florida and started at 7:00. Looking around at the start,
    > I could tell these were some serious upright riders. I saw one other recumbent: A Bachetta Strada,
    > but didn't have
    time
    > to say hello. The 'pack' took off and I said to myself: "Self, you with
    the
    > fast crowd now".
    >
    > On any long ride I know I have to "do my pace" and just go with the flow
    of
    > how I'm feeling. In this case, it meant I could tell each of the rest stop volunteers: "Okay, you
    > can pack up now. I'm the last one". What was a
    joy
    > was how the SRD performed on this ride. I was able to keep a good pace
    even
    > into 30 to 35 miles of about a 20mph or higher headwind with no break. I mean the route headed
    > north into the headwind for at least 30 miles. "Scooching" down in the seat allowed me to reduce
    > my wind resistance. I'm from hilly northern NJ. I'll take hills over flat and headwinds anyday.
    I
    > found out later that my pace into the headwinds wasn't much different than
    a
    > few of the "upright" riders that I had met. I'm sure the "aero" qualities of the SRD recumbent
    > made up for my lack of speed muscles.
    >
    > The SRD has a rear Sachs hub and a 7 gear cogset. This is the 1999 model, the first year that Bike
    > Friday made the SAT R DAY. The shifting was
    crisp
    > and flawless. Because of the gear inches with this bent, I found my self
    in
    > the "big hub ring" so to speak most of the time. I'm a spinner and could spin comfortably with the
    > SRD and keep a good pace.
    >
    > The ride covered 200K or 127 miles. On a "Brevet" you can NOT get assistance and must do the
    > complete course. You never know where a
    "secret
    > control" or check-in might be. I got lost twice and ended up with 152
    miles
    > on the odometer in a total riding time of just under 11 hours or about a
    > 13.8 overall mph. Compared to my V-REX, my guesstimate is that the SRD is about 10% to 15%
    > "slower" or less efficient. Don't forget it has 16
    wheels.
    > But the good side is that I'm riding......and I'm riding a recumbent.
    >
    > Yup..the SRD finished last. Correction: "I" finished last, but as said before, I be a slow rider.
    > As I pulled in one of the riders who had finished in about 8 hours was on a cell phone and said:
    "Unbelievable...some
    > guy is here on a folding bike with 16" tires and did the ride". He asked
    me
    > how I felt. I had this big recumbent smile on my face and said: "Do we
    have
    > time left to do a metric"?
    >
    > In conclusion, for a folding "recumbent" and a "fun" bike, check out a SAT
    R
    > DAY if you have the chance. The thing fits in a suitcase. NEAT.
    >
    > joe 'recumbo' keenan
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
  4. Rod

    Rod Guest

    Joe, did the Strada pilot have a big synthetic spider on his helmet?

    If so, next time you see him just say, "OK Jay, I know my way back". That's what I do. I torched him
    in a century ride last January.

    That's all I have to say about that :)) Good luck brave Breveters!!

    Rod Kuehl RANS V2 Challenge Wizard Riverview, FL
     
  5. Marci Taylor

    Marci Taylor Guest

    "JKeenan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    > If anyone is considering a "folder" or a "take me with you" recumbent, I heartily recommend the
    > Bike SAT R DAY by Bike Friday.
    >
    > Out of work since 9/11, a "consulting" gig had me in Miami Florida for a week or two a month since
    > last August. While I could borrow a V-REX, I always was concenred if "something happened".
    > Borrowing a bike once is fine, but like Ben Franklin said: "Fish and bike borrowers stink after 3
    > visits". Okay, I paraphrased a bit. What to do?
    >
    > I kept looking wistfully at the Bike SAT R DAY but the cost was more than I thought I could hide
    > from my wife...er... .I mean than I could afford. Some discussion led me to Larry Varney, who was
    > selling his SAT R DAY. On impulse I said "Sure, why not. I could always sell it in a year". I'm
    > glad I took the plunge.
    >
    > The recumbent SAT R DAY came fully equipped from Larry, including his 3 years of chain
    > lubrication. (Ducking from Larry). There was nothing I could find mechanically wrong with the SRD.
    > From a riding perspective, my only wish was that the seat back was taller, however given how this
    > has to pack in a suitcase, I still had that recumbent smile. It's a joy to remove the seat, fold
    > the SRD, and pop it in the trunk.
    >
    > I did a couple of week end rides with Shari Bernhard and her group of merry marauders to break the
    > SRD and me in. I also took it to the office and road it after work for an hour or so. The SRD
    > rides a bit harsher because of the smaller wheels and probably because I always over inflate my
    > tires by about 20 lbs.
    >
    > The BIG test was that I am hopeful of doing Paris-Brest-Paris this year and to do that you have to
    > complete a 200K, 300K, 400K and 600K in succession. Jim Solanick of the West Palm Beach bicycle
    > club had a 200K ride scheduled for January, so I signed up. My fear was that I would be
    > significanly slower on the SRD than on my V-REX. Given that I'm a slow rider to start with, would
    > I be able to complete the ride in the allotted time?
    >
    > The ride would cover 127 miles in "flat" Florida and started at 7:00. Looking around at the start,
    > I could tell these were some serious upright riders. I saw one other recumbent: A Bachetta Strada,
    > but didn't have time to say hello. The 'pack' took off and I said to myself: "Self, you with the
    > fast crowd now".
    >
    > On any long ride I know I have to "do my pace" and just go with the flow of how I'm feeling. In
    > this case, it meant I could tell each of the rest stop volunteers: "Okay, you can pack up now. I'm
    > the last one". What was a joy was how the SRD performed on this ride. I was able to keep a good
    > pace even into 30 to 35 miles of about a 20mph or higher headwind with no break. I mean the route
    > headed north into the headwind for at least 30 miles. "Scooching" down in the seat allowed me to
    > reduce my wind resistance. I'm from hilly northern NJ. I'll take hills over flat and headwinds
    > anyday. I found out later that my pace into the headwinds wasn't much different than a few of the
    > "upright" riders that I had met. I'm sure the "aero" qualities of the SRD recumbent made up for my
    > lack of speed muscles.
    >
    > The SRD has a rear Sachs hub and a 7 gear cogset. This is the 1999 model, the first year that Bike
    > Friday made the SAT R DAY. The shifting was crisp and flawless. Because of the gear inches with
    > this bent, I found my self in the "big hub ring" so to speak most of the time. I'm a spinner and
    > could spin comfortably with the SRD and keep a good pace.
    >
    > The ride covered 200K or 127 miles. On a "Brevet" you can NOT get assistance and must do the
    > complete course. You never know where a "secret control" or check-in might be. I got lost
    > twice and ended up with 152 miles on the odometer in a total riding time of just under 11
    > hours or about a
    > 13.8 overall mph. Compared to my V-REX, my guesstimate is that the SRD is about 10% to 15%
    > "slower" or less efficient. Don't forget it has 16 wheels. But the good side is that I'm
    > riding......and I'm riding a recumbent.
    >
    > Yup..the SRD finished last. Correction: "I" finished last, but as said before, I be a slow rider.
    > As I pulled in one of the riders who had finished in about 8 hours was on a cell phone and said:
    > "Unbelievable...some guy is here on a folding bike with 16" tires and did the ride". He asked me
    > how I felt. I had this big recumbent smile on my face and said: "Do we have time left to do a
    > metric"?
    >
    > In conclusion, for a folding "recumbent" and a "fun" bike, check out a SAT R DAY if you have the
    > chance. The thing fits in a suitcase. NEAT.
    >
    > joe 'recumbo' keenan

    Hi Joe: I agree with you about the saturday by Greengear. I recently purchased a bike friday upright
    "pocket rocket pro". I rode it awhile but just wasn't comfortable on the upright due to a neck
    injury that I have had most of my life. I do ride other upright bikes with no pain but I think the
    small wheels of the bike friday just hurt my neck a bit due to their harsher ride. To make a long
    story short, I contacted Bike friday (greengear) and told them of my pain and they gave me a 95%
    trade in on the upright towards the Saturday. Wow, now that's great customer service!!!!! I had
    owned a saturday previously and sold it and I wish I had not. But, the good news is, my new Saturday
    folder is scheduled to be delivered by Fed EX on monday. I paid an extra $300. for the cane creek
    air shock in the rear. I felt that this bike is suppose to be fun and comfortable so I thought this
    would take away any harshness that those 16" wheels might give. I'll post a review of the bike after
    I have had some time to ride it. What a great deal to be able to take along a recumbent on an
    airplane at no extra cost!! Marci
     
  6. John Riley

    John Riley Guest

    JKeenan wrote: [...]
    > Some discussion led me to Larry Varney, who was selling his SAT R DAY.
    [...]

    So what does that leave Larry with? A trike, and what else, a TE?

    John Riley
     
  7. Jkeenan

    Jkeenan Guest

    Yo Marci...

    I "shoulda knowed" that you would have owned at least one SRD. <big G> Which model did you get? Mine
    is the original 21 gear model, but that's fine for the riding I'll do with it. I will take it "just
    for fun" to a week long West Shore Michigan ride I'm doing the end of July. On those kind of rides,
    I do a lot of dawdling, exploring and photographing and could care less about speed.

    Bike FRIDAY is know for their customer service. I had tons of "questions" about the SRD and they
    were quick to respond every time.

    Happy Tailwinds,

    joe 'recumbo' keenan

    "Marci Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "JKeenan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]t>...
    > > If anyone is considering a "folder" or a "take me with you" recumbent, I heartily recommend the
    > > Bike SAT R DAY by Bike Friday.
    > >
    > > Out of work since 9/11, a "consulting" gig had me in Miami Florida for a week or two a month
    > > since last August. While I could borrow a V-REX, I always was concenred if "something happened".
    > > Borrowing a bike once is fine, but like Ben Franklin said: "Fish and bike borrowers stink after
    > > 3 visits". Okay, I paraphrased a bit. What to do?
    > >
    > > I kept looking wistfully at the Bike SAT R DAY but the cost was more
    than I
    > > thought I could hide from my wife...er... .I mean than I could afford.
    Some
    > > discussion led me to Larry Varney, who was selling his SAT R DAY. On impulse I said "Sure, why
    > > not. I could always sell it in a year". I'm
    glad
    > > I took the plunge.
    > >
    > > The recumbent SAT R DAY came fully equipped from Larry, including his 3 years of chain
    > > lubrication. (Ducking from Larry). There was nothing I
    could
    > > find mechanically wrong with the SRD. From a riding perspective, my
    only
    > > wish was that the seat back was taller, however given how this has to
    pack
    > > in a suitcase, I still had that recumbent smile. It's a joy to remove
    the
    > > seat, fold the SRD, and pop it in the trunk.
    > >
    > > I did a couple of week end rides with Shari Bernhard and her group of
    merry
    > > marauders to break the SRD and me in. I also took it to the office and
    road
    > > it after work for an hour or so. The SRD rides a bit harsher because of
    the
    > > smaller wheels and probably because I always over inflate my tires by
    about
    > > 20 lbs.
    > >
    > > The BIG test was that I am hopeful of doing Paris-Brest-Paris this year
    and
    > > to do that you have to complete a 200K, 300K, 400K and 600K in
    succession.
    > > Jim Solanick of the West Palm Beach bicycle club had a 200K ride
    scheduled
    > > for January, so I signed up. My fear was that I would be significanly
    slower
    > > on the SRD than on my V-REX. Given that I'm a slow rider to start with, would I be able to
    > > complete the ride in the allotted time?
    > >
    > > The ride would cover 127 miles in "flat" Florida and started at 7:00. Looking around at the
    > > start, I could tell these were some serious
    upright
    > > riders. I saw one other recumbent: A Bachetta Strada, but didn't have
    time
    > > to say hello. The 'pack' took off and I said to myself: "Self, you with
    the
    > > fast crowd now".
    > >
    > > On any long ride I know I have to "do my pace" and just go with the flow
    of
    > > how I'm feeling. In this case, it meant I could tell each of the rest
    stop
    > > volunteers: "Okay, you can pack up now. I'm the last one". What was a
    joy
    > > was how the SRD performed on this ride. I was able to keep a good pace
    even
    > > into 30 to 35 miles of about a 20mph or higher headwind with no break.
    I
    > > mean the route headed north into the headwind for at least 30 miles. "Scooching" down in the
    > > seat allowed me to reduce my wind resistance.
    I'm
    > > from hilly northern NJ. I'll take hills over flat and headwinds anyday.
    I
    > > found out later that my pace into the headwinds wasn't much different
    than a
    > > few of the "upright" riders that I had met. I'm sure the "aero"
    qualities
    > > of the SRD recumbent made up for my lack of speed muscles.
    > >
    > > The SRD has a rear Sachs hub and a 7 gear cogset. This is the 1999
    model,
    > > the first year that Bike Friday made the SAT R DAY. The shifting was
    crisp
    > > and flawless. Because of the gear inches with this bent, I found my
    self in
    > > the "big hub ring" so to speak most of the time. I'm a spinner and
    could
    > > spin comfortably with the SRD and keep a good pace.
    > >
    > > The ride covered 200K or 127 miles. On a "Brevet" you can NOT get assistance and must do the
    > > complete course. You never know where a
    "secret
    > > control" or check-in might be. I got lost twice and ended up with 152
    miles
    > > on the odometer in a total riding time of just under 11 hours or about a
    > > 13.8 overall mph. Compared to my V-REX, my guesstimate is that the SRD
    is
    > > about 10% to 15% "slower" or less efficient. Don't forget it has 16
    wheels.
    > > But the good side is that I'm riding......and I'm riding a recumbent.
    > >
    > > Yup..the SRD finished last. Correction: "I" finished last, but as said before, I be a slow
    > > rider. As I pulled in one of the riders who had finished in about 8 hours was on a cell phone
    > > and said:
    "Unbelievable...some
    > > guy is here on a folding bike with 16" tires and did the ride". He
    asked me
    > > how I felt. I had this big recumbent smile on my face and said: "Do we
    have
    > > time left to do a metric"?
    > >
    > > In conclusion, for a folding "recumbent" and a "fun" bike, check out a
    SAT R
    > > DAY if you have the chance. The thing fits in a suitcase. NEAT.
    > >
    > > joe 'recumbo' keenan
    >
    > Hi Joe: I agree with you about the saturday by Greengear. I recently purchased a bike friday
    > upright "pocket rocket pro". I rode it awhile but just wasn't comfortable on the upright due to a
    > neck injury that I have had most of my life. I do ride other upright bikes with no pain but I
    > think the small wheels of the bike friday just hurt my neck a bit due to their harsher ride. To
    > make a long story short, I contacted Bike friday (greengear) and told them of my pain and they
    > gave me a 95% trade in on the upright towards the Saturday. Wow, now that's great customer
    > service!!!!! I had owned a saturday previously and sold it and I wish I had not. But, the good
    > news is, my new Saturday folder is scheduled to be delivered by Fed EX on monday. I paid an extra
    > $300. for the cane creek air shock in the rear. I felt that this bike is suppose to be fun and
    > comfortable so I thought this would take away any harshness that those 16" wheels might give. I'll
    > post a review of the bike after I have had some time to ride it. What a great deal to be able to
    > take along a recumbent on an airplane at no extra cost!! Marci
     
  8. Jkeenan

    Jkeenan Guest

    Rod,

    I'm doing the 300K in Gainesville on Feb 15th and will see if he's there. The Strada was the only
    other recumbent I saw, but one of the rest stops said there was someone on a "body sock" bent.

    You said you dusted him on a century? Well, with my speed, the only dusting I do is to dust the
    donut powder off my mustache at rest stops!!!

    joe 'recumbo' keenan

    "Rod" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Joe, did the Strada pilot have a big synthetic spider on his helmet?
    >
    > If so, next time you see him just say, "OK Jay, I know my way back". That's what I do. I torched
    > him in a century ride last January.
    >
    > That's all I have to say about that :)) Good luck brave Breveters!!
    >
    > Rod Kuehl RANS V2 Challenge Wizard Riverview, FL
     
  9. Tom Blum

    Tom Blum Guest

    Speaking of Sat R Day recumbents:

    While I was riding with Carol Cohen, a man pulled into the start area and unpacked one from
    his trunk.

    It was quite impressive!! Twist, snap, click and he was ready to ride. Nice looking cool back
    seat. Nice looking!!!

    He rode off across the gravel parking area without problem, the suspension sucking up the
    irregularities in the surface.

    Good luck in your PBP ride. I can't imagine it, myself. But then again, there was a time when I
    couldn't imagine running a marathon either.

    --
    Miles of Smiles,

    Tom Blum Winter Haven, Florida Homebuilts: SWB Tour Easy Clone Speed Machine Clone

    www.gate.net/~teblum
     
  10. Larry Varney

    Larry Varney Guest

    John Riley wrote:
    >
    > JKeenan wrote: [...]
    >
    >>Some discussion led me to Larry Varney, who was selling his SAT R DAY.
    >>
    > [...]
    >
    > So what does that leave Larry with? A trike, and what else, a TE?
    >
    > John Riley
    >

    Yep, at the moment all I have is my TE and a Greenspeed GTO. Practically deprived, right?
    Seriously, I try not to get into "collecting" these bikes - my wife is complaining about the two
    uprights (Schwinn Super LeTour 12.2 (I think) and Takara, my first triple-chainring bike) that
    have sat in the basement, unused and practically unmoved, for about a decade and a half. And I
    try not to have too many "duplicates", in that I try to keep my bikes somewhat unique. So, I
    wouldn't want to have, say, a V-Rex and a Rocket at the same time - they are too similar and I'd
    use them for much the same purpose. The TE and the GTO are different enough that I don't think
    they overlap in purpose or sensation all that much. At least, that's how I justify more than one
    recumbent to my wife! And speaking of purpose: I just got in from shoveling my 100-yard-long
    driveway of about 3 inches of snow. I've been thinking about mounting a couple of snow shovel
    blades onto a broomstick, mounted to the boom on my trike. But, I worry that I not only would
    have to fit a knobby tire on the rear, but that I'd have problems with weight distribution and
    just couldn't get sufficient "push" when going up the driveway. But, it does sound like something
    Red Green would do, right?

    --
    Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
     
  11. Larry Varney <[email protected]> wrote in message

    > And speaking of purpose: I just got in from shoveling my 100-yard-long driveway of about 3
    > inches of snow. I've been thinking about mounting a couple of snow shovel blades onto a
    > broomstick, mounted to the boom on my trike. But, it does sound like something Red Green would
    > do, right?

    Funny, yesterday my wife thought about doing the same thing to her Catrike after I came in from
    shoveling our driveway. However, after some thought, she decided the synergy generated between me
    and my John Deere is much better (at least IHHO). BTW, any resemblence between her and Red Green is
    purely coincidental...

    Regards -- DP
     
  12. Jkeenan

    Jkeenan Guest

    Tom,

    The SAT R DAY is just that: cool. What's even nicer is having it in the office so I can take a hour
    ride at the end of the day and get mileage in. My SRD was made in 1999. Marci just ordered a new one
    and am eagerly awaiting her review.

    PBP is still a dream. The Brevet series I can do locally as a super nice rider, Diane Goodwin of the
    NYCC (an upright rider), has organized the whole 200K to 600K series in and around Princeton NJ. I
    have to work out the financing for PBP. Sell the SRD? No Way!!! Wonder if I can sell
    sponsorships???? Hmmm....

    Congrats on a marathon....nice accompishment.

    joe 'recumbo' keenan

    "Tom Blum" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Speaking of Sat R Day recumbents:
    >
    > While I was riding with Carol Cohen, a man pulled into the start area and unpacked one from
    > his trunk.
    >
    > It was quite impressive!! Twist, snap, click and he was ready to ride. Nice looking cool back
    > seat. Nice looking!!!
    >
    > He rode off across the gravel parking area without problem, the suspension sucking up the
    > irregularities in the surface.
    >
    > Good luck in your PBP ride. I can't imagine it, myself. But then
    again,
    > there was a time when I couldn't imagine running a marathon either.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Miles of Smiles,
    >
    > Tom Blum Winter Haven, Florida Homebuilts: SWB Tour Easy Clone Speed Machine Clone
    >
    > www.gate.net/~teblum
     
  13. Tom Sherman

    Tom Sherman Guest

    Larry Varney wrote:
    > ... Seriously, I try not to get into "collecting" these bikes - my wife is complaining about the
    > two uprights (Schwinn Super LeTour 12.2 > (I think) and Takara, my first triple-chainring bike)
    > that have sat in > the basement, unused and practically unmoved, for about a decade and a > half.
    > And I try not to have too many "duplicates", in that I try to keep my bikes somewhat unique. So, I
    > wouldn't want to have, say, a V-Rex and a Rocket at the same time - they are too similar and I'd
    > use them for much the same purpose....

    Larry,

    See, it was a good thing someone else ended up with the Dragonflyer. :)

    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
    Dragonflyer
     
  14. Larry Varney

    Larry Varney Guest

    Tom Sherman wrote:
    > Larry Varney wrote:
    >
    >> ... Seriously, I try not to get into "collecting" these bikes - my wife is complaining about the
    >> two uprights (Schwinn Super LeTour 12.2
    >> > (I think) and Takara, my first triple-chainring bike) that have
    >> sat in > the basement, unused and practically unmoved, for about a decade and a > half. And I
    >> try not to have too many "duplicates", in that I try to keep my bikes somewhat unique. So, I
    >> wouldn't want to have, say, a V-Rex and a Rocket at the same time - they are too similar and I'd
    >> use them for much the same purpose....
    >>
    >
    > Larry,
    >
    > See, it was a good thing someone else ended up with the Dragonflyer.
    > :)
    >
    > Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
    > Dragonflyer
    >

    Now, I didn't say that I was not into collecting *trikes*! But seriously, I'm going to have to
    ride more trikes to see just how different one is from the other, if it's to the degree that
    2-wheelers can be so different. I can see myself someday having a trike that is more oriented
    toward fast rides that is less suitable for touring, and vice-versa. Maybe a Speed or a Micro for
    the former and my GTO for the latter. Or it may just turn out that any decent trike, so long as
    it isn't set-up too much toward one end of the spectrum or the other, is just fine for both types
    of riding. Would, for instance, a Speed or Micro be noticeably faster, both in effort and
    results, than my GTO? I'd like to find out!

    --
    Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
     
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