Schwinn Varsity at Walmart

Discussion in 'Road Cycling' started by Olebiker, Jan 27, 2006.

  1. Olebiker

    Olebiker Guest

    It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.
     
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  2. Olebiker

    Olebiker Guest

    It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.
     
  3. Rich

    Rich Guest

    Olebiker wrote:
    > It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    > Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    > road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.


    You should not shop at Walmart. Walmart is evil.
     
  4. Rich

    Rich Guest

    Olebiker wrote:
    > It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    > Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    > road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.


    You should not shop at Walmart. Walmart is evil.
     
  5. Max Penn

    Max Penn Guest

    "Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Olebiker wrote:
    > > It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    > > Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    > > road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.

    >
    > You should not shop at Walmart. Walmart is evil.


    And, like many bikes, those "Schwinn" bicycles are produced in China under
    labor conditions and wages that would not be tolerated in USA (except at
    WalMart), Canada, or the EU. Schwinn is now nothing but a name. The
    original Schwinn company is a memory; they sold their name to the highest
    bidder.
     
  6. Max Penn

    Max Penn Guest

    "Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Olebiker wrote:
    > > It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    > > Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    > > road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.

    >
    > You should not shop at Walmart. Walmart is evil.


    And, like many bikes, those "Schwinn" bicycles are produced in China under
    labor conditions and wages that would not be tolerated in USA (except at
    WalMart), Canada, or the EU. Schwinn is now nothing but a name. The
    original Schwinn company is a memory; they sold their name to the highest
    bidder.
     
  7. > It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    > Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    > road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.


    If it's not 16-gauge gas-pipe tubing, it's not a Varsity.

    I always thought it would have been a cool marketing scheme to put the
    Varsity name on something superlight and high-quality. The ultimate inside
    joke.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
     
  8. > It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    > Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    > road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.


    If it's not 16-gauge gas-pipe tubing, it's not a Varsity.

    I always thought it would have been a cool marketing scheme to put the
    Varsity name on something superlight and high-quality. The ultimate inside
    joke.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
     
  9. Olebiker

    Olebiker Guest

    Rich wrote:
    > You should not shop at Walmart. Walmart is evil.


    I agree and I normally avoid it, but I had no choice last night.
     
  10. The Wogster

    The Wogster Guest

    Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
    >>It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    >>Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    >>road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.

    >
    >
    > If it's not 16-gauge gas-pipe tubing, it's not a Varsity.


    I would have thought 12 guage or maybe 8 guage, 16 is pretty thin for
    gas pipe. Isn't there a requirment that Walmart bikes need to weigh in
    excess of 20kg (44lbs).

    > I always thought it would have been a cool marketing scheme to put the
    > Varsity name on something superlight and high-quality. The ultimate inside
    > joke.


    Kinda like Ford building a nice high quality hybrid mini-van and calling
    it an Edsel.....

    W
     
  11. Cathy Kearns

    Cathy Kearns Guest

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > > It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    > > Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    > > road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.

    >
    > If it's not 16-gauge gas-pipe tubing, it's not a Varsity.


    Years ago when I went to Davis there were many bikes, and not surprisingly,
    some number of bike collisions. Those Schwinn Varsity could pancake a good
    racing bike like a SUV in a collision with a compact.
     
  12. Dear Mike:
    I once thought of putting Varsity graphics on one of those SuperSport
    fillet'-brazed straight chromo frames. With a Wald one piece triple
    chain-ring crank. Would really impress going up the Del Mar grade.....
    So far, the right frame has not come along.

    Robert Leone [email protected]
     
  13. Olebiker wrote:
    About the appearance of a Schwinn "Varsity" in Walmart.

    On second thought, I suspect it's a trademark protection thing. If you
    have a trademarked product, you can';t just sit on it and file forms to
    maintain it. You have to use it in trade every so often. The wider the
    use, the better. A one-time limited production run of a bunch of cheap
    road-component bikes dumped off at WalMart for sale around the country
    counts as use in trade. For further details, please contact an
    intellectual property legal specialist -- this is based on this
    trademark and copyright law comic book (and I DO mean comic book, art
    by the Pander brothers) I read once.

    Robert Leone [email protected]
     
  14. landotter

    landotter Guest

    Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
    > > It appears that the venerable name "Varisty" has been resurrected by
    > > Schwinn. I was at Walmart tonight and they have an aluminum framed
    > > road bike that Schwinn is calling Varsity. It was $199.

    >
    > If it's not 16-gauge gas-pipe tubing, it's not a Varsity.



    Varsity's were "electroforged" from sheets of steel, not from bought
    tube stock.

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/varsity.html

    Yeah, they were pretty heavy, but the process had potential, if they'd
    been able to hang in till the newer steels emerged in the late 70s, we
    might still have E/F bikes today.

    My neighbor has a yellow one he keeps as his brother gave it to him 25
    years ago, and he can't bear to part with it. He spent $150 or so and
    had the LBS retrofit it with six speed clickshift mounted on the stem,
    and some better brake pads.

    It rides very very nicely, and is a perfect town bike for his needs--he
    loves the slight cheese/nostalgia factor. :p
     
  15. Mike Kruger

    Mike Kruger Guest

    "landotter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > My neighbor has a yellow one he keeps as his brother gave it to him 25
    > years ago, and he can't bear to part with it. He spent $150 or so and
    > had the LBS retrofit it with six speed clickshift mounted on the stem,
    > and some better brake pads.
    >

    He's not the only one. I came across an old Varsity in a bike shop getting a
    good, thorough overhaul and upgrade. I asked the wrench about it, and he
    said he wouldn't put all that money into a heavy Varsity himself, but the
    guy liked his old bike and had the money, so why not invest it in something
    you love and use?
     
  16. landotter

    landotter Guest

  17. Rich

    Rich Guest

    Mike Kruger wrote:

    > He's not the only one. I came across an old Varsity in a bike shop getting a
    > good, thorough overhaul and upgrade. I asked the wrench about it, and he
    > said he wouldn't put all that money into a heavy Varsity himself, but the
    > guy liked his old bike and had the money, so why not invest it in something
    > you love and use?


    And the use part is largly irrelevant.

    Some people spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) on old,
    unreliable, poor-performing, uncomfortable cars all the tim.
     
  18. Rich

    Rich Guest

    landotter wrote:
    > Are you sure? The only road bike that Wallyworld sell afaik, is the
    > humorously named "GMC Denial"


    It's Denali.
     
  19. "landotter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Are you sure? The only road bike that Wallyworld sell afaik, is the
    > humorously named "GMC Denial"
    >
    > http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...at=133073&type=5&dept=4125&path=0:4125:133073
    > http://tinyurl.com/7sgde
    >

    Well their intended target user doesn;t ride hard or fast, so the bike would
    work fine t\for that purpose.
    My son rode one in last year's HHH at Witchita Falls Texas.
    He did Ok, no problems. But he was a courting all the "abandoned girls" left
    behind on the ride.
    So for cruising along at a easy pace it was perfect for him.
    Besides the aero-wheels make it look more expensive and trick, so it went
    over well with all the girls he was talking with along the ride.
    I'd change out the Kenda tires for better puncture resistant ones as thorns
    go right through them easily.
    It uses a two piece handlebar setup so they can slip on the grip shifters.
    The frame is aluminum albeit pretty heavy like a MTB or something. So it is
    more like a MTB with road wheels and dropped road handlebars.
    It actually has Shimano shifters, but the are very low end ones. Shifting is
    slow, and the grip shifters are sloppy.
    But most of the intended target ridership seems to shift into a lower gear
    and just stay there and not shift much.
    When and if my son loses interest, I'll convert it over into a single speed
    for my purposes.:)
     
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