rocko said:I am thinking of buying this bike with Ultegra 10 speed for 2006, anybody got one, ridden one, share any opinions? Or know of any online reviews? I am trying to choose between this and Specialized Tarmac and Trek Madone 5.2, all around the same price.
kleng said:Hi
You should also consider the GIANT Advanced TCR, which runs a full Ultegra group set on the T-mobile team frame.
http://www.giant-bicycle.com/au/030.000.000/030.000.000.asp?model=10030
not sure if the same spec is available in the UK, but in Australia its good value for $5499 for around a 7.0kg bike.
Regards
Ken
kleng said:Hi
Have'nt ridden the Scott but you should also consider the Giant TCR Advanced which is the T-Mobile team frame running the Ultegra groupset.
Not sure is you can get the same specs in the U.K but the Giant in Australia
is great value at $5500 AUD.
http://www.giant-bicycle.com/au/030.000.000/030.000.000.asp?model=10030
Regards
Ken
rocko said:I am thinking of buying this bike with Ultegra 10 speed for 2006, anybody got one, ridden one, share any opinions? Or know of any online reviews? I am trying to choose between this and Specialized Tarmac and Trek Madone 5.2, all around the same price.
rocko said:Cheers for your input. The bikes available in the UK are different. There is one TCR that has a mix of 105 and Ultegra, not as nice. I will try and find shops that sell all and give each one a test ride.
A lot of the top of the range Scotts are getting returned with frame failure - esp around the head tube. One of my friends had this happen with catastrophic consequences (on a steep descent). Scott offered him a replacement frame. The LBS owner mentioned that this problem was fairly common with Scotts. He said no thanks!rocko said:I am thinking of buying this bike with Ultegra 10 speed for 2006, anybody got one, ridden one, share any opinions? Or know of any online reviews? I am trying to choose between this and Specialized Tarmac and Trek Madone 5.2, all around the same price.
First I've heard of that problem. I have a CR1 and it has a 1000 miles on it already and I love it. A number of other people on my team also have them and none have experienced frame failures.patch70 said:A lot of the top of the range Scotts are getting returned with frame failure - esp around the head tube. One of my friends had this happen with catastrophic consequences (on a steep descent). Scott offered him a replacement frame. The LBS owner mentioned that this problem was fairly common with Scotts. He said no thanks!
I would go the Specialized. Its had great reviews both published and from friends.
Treks (& Giants) are like a$$holes. Everyones got them.
The LBS owner involved said they were getting about 1 in 7 top end Scott frames back needing replacement!jerryz said:First I've heard of that problem. I have a CR1 and it has a 1000 miles on it already and I love it. A number of other people on my team also have them and none have experienced frame failures.
patch70 said:The LBS owner involved said they were getting about 1 in 7 top end Scott frames back needing replacement!
I asked the lbs that supplies our team. We get a team discount on CR1s. I wasn't aware of single failure by a team members bike. He said he hadn't had to warranty any. And there a re quite a few on the team.MidBunchLurker said:Sounds wierd, maybe there was a bad batch. I know at least 6 people riding CR1s, and none have reported any problems. One guy likes the CR1 so much he has two, one for racing and one for training!
By way of counterpoint:jimmer23 said:Yeah, it's not even a contest. The Scott is in a different category than your other choices, and if you can get it for the same amount of coin it's a no-brainer. Get the Scott, you'll save at least 200g on the frameset and get better customer service. Go to www.weightweenies.starbike.com for more info and feedback from people who actually know what they're talking about. Good luck!
The LBS owner was a Scott dealer so it would not have been in his interest to make this up.MidBunchLurker said:Sounds wierd, maybe there was a bad batch. I know at least 6 people riding CR1s, and none have reported any problems. One guy likes the CR1 so much he has two, one for racing and one for training!
Patch, have to agree with you here. I admit to being impressed when I picked up this sub-900 gram frame at my LBS; the allure of lightweight is undeniable. However, the rational side says the value of this weight-savings in the real world is about zip, and that trading off strength and durability for weight savings could be a bad idea in the long run. After all, most of us who aren't elite sponsored racers plan to keep our equipment more than a season or two.patch70 said:The LBS owner was a Scott dealer so it would not have been in his interest to make this up.
Also, amongst the guys that I ride with whose opinions I trust, those on the Scotts say that it is an alright bike, nothing special, and that their next bike probably won't be a Scott. Those guys on Specialized bikes love them and will definitely be getting another one next time.
patch70 said:A lot of the top of the range Scotts are getting returned with frame failure - esp around the head tube. One of my friends had this happen with catastrophic consequences (on a steep descent). Scott offered him a replacement frame. The LBS owner mentioned that this problem was fairly common with Scotts. He said no thanks!
I would go the Specialized. Its had great reviews both published and from friends.
Treks (& Giants) are like a$$holes. Everyones got them.
We must have gotten a dud batch here in Australia.Insight Driver said:Funny thing is when I make a search for bicycle failures and Scott failures in particular, I find the only place where I have found any mention of failure is from you. I'm not saying you are wrong, mind you, but what you are saying is based on anecdotal hearsay and I have not found any other data that supports your oberservation. All I've found is that Scott CR1 is a high-quality frame, no better or worse than any other high-end carbon fiber frame. I don't ride a Scott, Specialized, Giant, Trek or Cannondale. I do ride, however, a full custom carbon fiber bike made by Calfee Design.
I also study carbon fiber techonology and chemistry. Just to give you some perspective.
patch70 said:We must have gotten a dud batch here in Australia.
(I also don't ride any of the brands mentioned!)
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