Scott Speedster S60 VS. Giant ORC 3

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  1. dizzydy

    dizzydy New Member

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    Hello all, I am a newbie that needs your opinions to help me decide what bike to get. After some searching around I have found two bikes that look like they fit my needs and my budget.

    I will be using the bicycle to join some of the lbs rides and some charity rides. I don't see competition in the very near future. I am male, 5'6 and 120lbs, and there are considerable hills around my area.

    The LBS that carries the Scott is offering free maintainance for life (I'm guessing minor stuff like brake/gear adjustments and such) and the other one carrying the Giant has the same offer for just the first year. Both of the bikes feel good when I am on them but the Scott looks a little more wicked :p If it has anything to do with it.

    Sott Speedster S60 - $620 USD
    Giant OCR 3 - $650 USD

    So here are the Specs and where I need your experienced comments because most of this is pigeon talk to me.
    GIANT OCR 3
    frame ALUXX butted aluminum, Compact Road Design
    fork formulaOne Composite w/aluminum steerer
    handlebar 6061 Alloy W:short reach / shallow drop
    stem 6061 alloy Adjustable
    seatpost Alloy 27.2x350mm
    saddle M: Selle Royal Viper W: Sell Royal Viper for Women
    pedals Caged w/ Clips
    shifters Shimano Sora
    front derailleur Shimano Sora
    rear derailleur Shimano Sora
    brakes TK521AG long reach
    brake levers Shimano Sora
    cassette SRAM PG850 M: 12-26 8-speed W: 12-27 8-speed
    chain KMC Z72
    cranks FSACK400SST
    bb BB7420
    rims DA22
    hubs Alloy Sealed Bearing
    spokes Stainless Steel
    tires Kenda Kontender 700x25



    SCOTT SPEEDSTER S60

    22 lbs

    Frame
    Alloy tubing 7005 P.G.
    Road geometry
    Integrated headtube
    Fork Alloy / 1 1/8" / steel steerer
    Headset Integrated steel cup
    Derailleur (Rear) Shimano RD 2200 / 24 speed
    Derailleur (Front) Shimano FD 2203 - F
    Shifters Shimano Sora ST-2200
    Dual Control
    Brake Levers Integrated
    Brakes Scott Comp SCBR-350
    Crankset Truvativ ISOFLOW 30x42x52T
    BB-Set Truvativ 07BB 68mm shell / 113mm spindle
    Handlebar Scott Road Drop OS / anatomic / 31.8mm
    H'stem Scott Road Team OS
    1-1/8" / four bolt / 31.8mm
    Seatpost Scott Alloy 31.6mm
    Seat Scott Road
    Hub (Front) Scott Comp
    Hub (Rear) Scott Comp
    Chain KMC IG 51
    Cassette
    Shimano CN-HG50-8
    12-25T
    Spokes 14 G stainless silver 2mm
    Rims
    Alex R 500 black
    32H F. & R.
    Tires Conti Ultra Sport / 700x23C


    I am also looking at a 2005 TREK 1000c from a private seller who claims it has never been ridden for $450.

    Thank you in advance for the advice.
     
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  2. senator52

    senator52 New Member

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    The predominantly Sora groupset on the OCR3 is a level above the 2200 on the S60. Components wise i would take the Giant. However a large part of cycling is the fit of the bikes, ultimately you will have to test ride both and see which you feel more comfortable on. Both bikes should distinguish themselves from the other by their geometry. The OCR has 'compact' geometry whilst the S60 has more 'traditional' geometry. Both bikes are solid entry level rides, but you will find it hard to go past an OCR in terms of entry level value. The Trek 1000 is also a great entry level ride, also having 'traditional' geometry. Good luck with your purchase, hopefully you will have pictures soon!:D
     
  3. dizzydy

    dizzydy New Member

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    Thank you Senator!

    I am leaning towards the OCR now because of the better components (even though the S60 has a better paint scheme, we won't make the decision based on that now will we?:D)

    The problem is the two LBS I am looking at do not carry both bikes. Maybe I'll go to the shops this weekend back to back and get on the bikes again.

    What are the highlights of a 'traditional' frame vs. a 'compact' frame??
     
  4. KellyT

    KellyT New Member

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    That has my vote as well. Excellent budget bike, without a fault that I can readily think of.
     
  5. dizzydy

    dizzydy New Member

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    What is holding me back from the Trek 1000c is that, even though the seller claims it has less than 1 mile on it and it is cheaper, it comes without a warranty and the money I would save would quickly be eaten up by maintainance costs (the Bike shops are offering free lifetime/1 year maintainance).

    Is the relationship and warranty you get from LBS enough to justify purchasing from them as opposed to a private seller?

    Can anyone shed more light on 'traditional' vs. 'compact' frames?

    Thanks
     
  6. KellyT

    KellyT New Member

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    I suppose the warranty might be enough to swing it. I haven't made use of warranties myself. I bought my Trek 1000 from a shop that I discovered couldn't set up derailleurs to save their life. So a warranty through them, isn't worth much to me.

    Traditional geometry has a horizontal top tube and less 'stand over' clearance - like the Trek. Compact geometry has a sloping top tube and much more 'stand over' clearance - like the Giant. The Scott is slightly compact, and falls between the two.

    Geometry is to an extent a personal thing. I only seem to cycle well on traditional geometry and I struggle horribly on a compact. I hate them. But I suppose some people have found the exact opposite. You need to ride each (and ideally for quite a distance) to know if you will have a preference for one or the other, or better still, if you can't really notice any difference.
     
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    Unbelievably New Member

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    Styling has alot to do with it.
    Don't be diluted by which has better componentry...:eek:
    Either one has VERY entry level stuff leaving the Scott as my choice between the two.
     
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