Well, many of you will have your wish. I had no idea that my post regarding too much politics would have so many disagreements. I haven't perused this ng in a while; my only interest is getting info and giving out same to CYCLISTS. I don't need to a group to be the same as what I read in the paper. I meant no offense to anyone. If you took it, then tough! I won't look at this group again. If anyone knows of a ng for hardcore mountain bikers please let me know. This is not it.