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Seeking Silence

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  1. My Specialized A1 Comp has been creaking and clicking recently. I eventually found the most noise
    came from the seat post, which has now been rendered silent with grease. I thought the head set was
    done too until I found it was the brake cables creaking. Silence is imminent.

    Now I have one noise - a feeling really rather than actual sound - left. I can feel something
    rubbing once per chain revolution when using the smallest cogs on my 8-gear Shimano cassette. It
    goes when I get onto the flat metal ones - bigger. I presume that either I have a tight link in the
    chain - made evident by going round the tight radii of the smallest gears or something is rubbing
    when the chain is pushed over that way. I can't reproduce when stationary with the bike on a stand.

    I wondered whether I have put back the idler biscuit wheels the right way - one has a deliberately
    loose bearing, the other is tight - which way round should they go - loose close to the cogs, tight
    at the end of the rear mech?

    Otherwise I think I will swap the chain.

  2. Geoff Pearson said:

    Now I have one noise - a feeling really rather than actual sound - left. I can feel something
    rubbing once per chain revolution when using the smallest cogs on my 8-gear Shimano cassette. It
    goes when I get onto the flat metal ones - bigger. I presume that either I have a tight link in
    the chain - made evident by going round the tight radii of the smallest gears or something is
    rubbing when the chain is pushed over that way. I can't reproduce when stationary with the bike on
    a stand.

    I would manually test each chain link by swivelling with fingers and check no plate or pin is
    sticking out more than normal. If noise really is exactly once per chain rev (and not wheel or crank
    rev) then you'll probably find something wrong like this.

    Stiff links can be corrected by using the "spreader" position of a chain tool, or if Shimano,
    possibly by replacing pin with one of the special ones.

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    I wondered whether I have put back the idler biscuit wheels

    Biscuit wheels! That's a new one on me :-)

    Quoted message said:

    the right way - one has a deliberately loose bearing, the other is tight - which way round should
    they go - loose close to the cogs, tight at the end of the rear mech?

    Upper biscuit (nearest the cogs) has the floating ("loose"😉 bushing.

    ~PB

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    Geoff Pearson said:

    Now I have one noise - a feeling really rather than actual sound - left. I can feel something
    rubbing once per chain revolution when using the smallest cogs on my 8-gear Shimano cassette.
    It goes when I get onto the flat metal ones - bigger. I presume that either I have a tight
    link in the chain - made evident by going round the tight radii of the smallest gears or
    something is rubbing when the chain is pushed over that way. I can't reproduce when stationary
    with the bike on a stand.

    I would manually test each chain link by swivelling with fingers and


    check

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    no plate or pin is sticking out more than normal. If noise really is exactly once per chain rev
    (and not wheel or crank rev) then you'll probably find something wrong like this.

    Stiff links can be corrected by using the "spreader" position of a chain tool, or if Shimano,
    possibly by replacing pin with one of the special ones.

    Quoted message said:

    I wondered whether I have put back the idler biscuit wheels

    Biscuit wheels! That's a new one on me :-)

    Quoted message said:

    the right way - one has a deliberately loose bearing, the other is tight - which way round
    should they go - loose close to the cogs, tight at the end of the rear mech?

    Upper biscuit (nearest the cogs) has the floating ("loose"😉 bushing.

    ~PB

    Thanks - I will do the chain test in the next couple of days. Sorry about the biscuits but that is
    what they look and feel like.

    I feel a fool - I had got my biscuits the wrong way round - wobbly furthest from cogs. Now
    all is well.

  4. "Geoff Pearson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Geoff Pearson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Geoff Pearson wrote:
    > Now I have one noise - a feeling really rather than actual sound - left. I can feel
    > something rubbing once per chain revolution when using the smallest cogs on my 8-gear
    > Shimano cassette. It goes when I get onto the flat metal ones - bigger. I presume that
    > either I have a tight link in the chain - made evident by going round the tight radii of the
    > smallest gears or something is rubbing when the chain is pushed over that way. I can't
    > reproduce when stationary with the bike on a stand.

    I would manually test each chain link by swivelling with fingers and


    check

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    no plate or pin is sticking out more than normal. If noise really is exactly once per chain
    rev (and not wheel or crank rev) then you'll probably find something wrong like this.

    Stiff links can be corrected by using the "spreader" position of a


    chain

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    tool, or if Shimano, possibly by replacing pin with one of the special ones.

    > I wondered whether I have put back the idler biscuit wheels

    Biscuit wheels! That's a new one on me :-)

    > the right way - one has a deliberately loose bearing, the other is tight - which way round
    > should they go - loose close to the cogs, tight at the end of the rear mech?

    Upper biscuit (nearest the cogs) has the floating ("loose"😉 bushing.

    ~PB

    Thanks - I will do the chain test in the next couple of days. Sorry


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the biscuits but that is what they look and feel like.

    I feel a fool - I had got my biscuits the wrong way round - wobbly


    furthest

    Quoted message said:

    from cogs. Now all is well.

    Utter silence now attained - chain worn to buggery, so new chain and cassette - bliss.

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